Projecting 3B in 2018

If the Braves were at the 85 win mark on the win curve, I would agree with getting a short term fix at 3b they could pencil in for 2-3 wins.

If they had plans to improve the team to the 85 win level, I would agree with acquiring a more dependable answer at 3b.

However, all signs and comments point to the Braves having very little money to add anything this offseason. Their "big" signings are likely to be a BP arm or two. Those improvements aren't enough to get this roster anywhere near 85 wins, so i would like them to "see what they have" with Camargo, just like they did with Adonis. The main difference is Camargo at least has a chance to be valuable, whereas it was beyond obvious almost immediately that Adonis wasn't the answer.

The Braves have shed a good bit of payroll this year. Even with some raises, I don't think it's out of the question what we could have anywhere between 20-25 million available, may be more depending on if we can move any salaries.
 
The Braves have shed a good bit of payroll this year. Even with some raises, I don't think it's out of the question what we could have anywhere between 20-25 million available, may be more depending on if we can move any salaries.

Garcia 12 m
Colon 12 m
S-Rod 5 m
Collmenter 1.2 m
Phillips 1 m

*Dickey 8 m
 
Are we really using the "these contracts expired so that's how much they have to spend" method to determine spending capacity?
 
Are we really using the "these contracts expired so that's how much they have to spend" method to determine spending capacity?

We are not. We are looking at the 39-40 million of opening day 2017 contracts that won't be on the opening day 2018 roster* and then mentally adjusting for step up in contract salary and arbitration and making an educated guess at how much will be remaining.

I know you for whatever reason think the Braves are broke and will be carrying much less payroll. I don't think they are broke. I kind of hope they carry less payroll but don't think they are going to have to.
 
That's a great way to not commit to an opinion. "They may have a lower payroll, but they didn't have to".

Let ignorance reign for the next 6 months!
 
That's a great way to not commit to an opinion. "They may have a lower payroll, but they didn't have to".

Let ignorance reign for the next 6 months!

I think the payroll will most likely be between 115 and 125 million, which is more or less what it was this year.
 
And don't think I haven't noticed the -- if they don't do much the Braves are broke -- if they do anything they are desperate -- scenario you've been refining.
 
Are we really using the "these contracts expired so that's how much they have to spend" method to determine spending capacity?

While we don't know what we have to spend or what ownership will allow payroll to be, I think we have a good idea what to expect based on this year's payroll. Given that info with what we know is committed to 2018 and given a very rough guestimate of about 20-25 million in Arby raises, that (should) leave us with 20-25 million to spend.
 
While we don't know what we have to spend or what ownership will allow payroll to be, I think we have a good idea what to expect based on this year's payroll. Given that info with what we know is committed to 2018 and given a very rough guestimate of about 20-25 million in Arby raises, that (should) leave us with 20-25 million to spend.

You honestly think the payroll is going to be $120M-$125M again?

What part of "the main acquisition will be a BP arm or 2" isn't registering?

The payroll is likely to be closer to $110M than $125M.
 
You honestly think the payroll is going to be $120M-$125M again?

What part of "the main acquisition will be a BP arm or 2" isn't registering?

The payroll is likely to be closer to $110M than $125M.

Yeah I don't think our payroll is going up a ton. I could see it being a little more than 110, but not by much. I'm not a big fan of going after any bullpen pieces this year, so honestly I really don't see much in this FA class that I would go after. Everyone is either out of our price range, isn't good, or is bad for the long term outlook of our club. I guess I may be okay with signing one decent right handed reliever, but I would much prefer just going with the youth movement because I think we have some really talented young BP arms. I would love to see what Akeel Morris has over the course of a season.
 
You honestly think the payroll is going to be $120M-$125M again?

What part of "the main acquisition will be a BP arm or 2" isn't registering?

The payroll is likely to be closer to $110M than $125M.

The FO has stated payroll will go up. The number of teams who decrease payroll a year opening a new stadium is virtually nonexistent outside of maybe the Marlins But even the Marlins have spent a little money.

You continously say that the FO is making untimely roster moves to save their jobs, but somehow they will choose to decrease payroll in a year that could be a make it or break it year for them?

With that being said, they may decide the players in FA aren't worth committing a good chunk of money to and may be they don't use all of the money allocated. I would expect them to go for it next season though, so I would be willing to bet they don't sit on that money.
 
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