Millwood1Hitter
Anytime Now Frankie...
This whole organization is a train wreck. Unreal
Megathread: Braves lose Maitan, Bae and 10+ plus International Sanctions.
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Don’t forget the Braves just recently announced they’re building the spring training facility literally in JS’s backyard.
WaitingFor2017
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I expect Albies to be traded away for a #3 starter now.
lol.
chop2chip
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FWIW, the character assassinations on Coppy started well before he was ousted, and most of these accusations came from disgruntled underlings if you are to believe Jeff Wren.
You can bet your ass the Braves will be making some extremely short-sighted moves to win in 2018.
This is about the last trick upper management can pull before they lose their jobs too.
I;m guessing the Braves need to draw 3 million or more next year, or bye bye JS.
what an opportunity this could be for the Braves to start fresh and get intelligent people in here; but alas we are going to be stuck with Hart and JS.
THIS IS WHERE having an actual owner that cares makes a huge difference. A guy like Cuban wouldn't let crap like this happen and if it did I suspect he would clean house and get competent intelligent people in the building and send the old guard out to the graveyard.
Having a corporate or cheap owner is the single most debilitating thing that can happen to a professional franchise.
What a disaster.
THIS IS WHERE having an actual owner that cares makes a huge difference. A guy like Cuban wouldn't let crap like this happen and if it did I suspect he would clean house and get competent intelligent people in the building and send the old guard out to the graveyard.
Having a corporate or cheap owner is the single most debilitating thing that can happen to a professional franchise.
What a disaster.
This is starting to sound more and more like Copy was thrown under the bus.
Shameful.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Who is going to fire JS or Hart. As long as Liberty hits their numbers, nothing at the top will change. The only thing JS has to doto keep his job is keep the budget where Liberty doesn't lose money. As long as JS is there Hart is there.
chop2chip
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Two things:
The Braves of the early 2000's and the Blue Jays of recent years were both extremely well ran and under corporate ownership.
We have a billion of poor examples of teams ran by more traditional ownership groups that also have issues. The only clear delineator from good owner and bad owner seems to be 'winning' and, well, that's some selection bias at work.
What we are seeing is the importance of not having retirees man positions that require immense oversight. I very much appreciate Suspenders and I still believe he was a HOF worthy GM, but he's had two regimes under him that have been plagued by infighting and poor results. He's ultimately responsible for the hiring and oversight of Wren and Coppy and it's extremely apparent that neither of those two things are being handled that well.
chop2chip
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Didn't we learn this past month that many of the recent hirings were to build up the Braves analytics department?
One guy was an analytical guy, and he is a special assistant to the GM.
We will see how much impact he has when the next GM is sitting on the floor in the corner banging rocks together while chanting "more pitching, more pitching, more pitching".
I'm willing to purchase the team if we can crowdsource some donations from this site. I promise I will end this madness. Force JS into Vice Chairman Emeritus retirement role and Hart out.
chop2chip
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Right, but wasn't the point of hiring Fisher to build and expand the analytics department? This to me implies that the team is going to hire more data analysts/scientists, which the team wouldn't announce in press release of course.
From the AJC:
This could all just be lip service and at this point I wouldn't disagree with you if you thought it was just that. This FO has burned all trust with me as a fan.