The REAL Russia scandal
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Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
No puppet...
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Uh, you're a little farther afield than I am. Bring me up to speed?
But, yesterday you said that it didn't bother you. What's changed? You're going to have to do a hell of a lot of spadework to convince me that all of the sudden you think that this matters, after the stuff you've written off as harmless or irrelevant.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
The Washington Post ran an article in July about the fact that the Trump defense was likely to use the fact that Fusion GPS--which was known to have been funded by D interests--had also been employed by Prevezon Holdings, who were represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya, and speculated that they would try to muddy the waters and conflate the two issues... which is I guess my best interpretation of what you're trying to say.
Welcome to thethe world!
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Hehe. Ok.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Can't wait to see what those Fusion GPS bank records reveal.
At least on this subject, y'all two need to just go ahead and get a carrel already.
57Brave
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John HarwoodVerified account @JohnJHarwood 7h7 hours ago
John Harwood Retweeted Chris Hayes
can’t repeat this enough: US uranium mining is relevant to commercial nuclear power plants not nuclear weapons
really ------- Wasn't that the case with the aluminum tubes in Iraq ?
John Harwood Retweeted Chris Hayes
can’t repeat this enough: US uranium mining is relevant to commercial nuclear power plants not nuclear weapons
really ------- Wasn't that the case with the aluminum tubes in Iraq ?
57Brave
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Except that it's not a bombshell. Because so what? The Steele dossier contains raw intelligence, and its credibility or lack thereof has nothing to do with the sources of its funding. Its credibility or lack thereof is being investigated, and where it proves credible that will be because supporting evidence has been found from credible sources. Which has been happening all along. And where the dossier proves not credible that will be because supporting evidence won't be found. Certainly, not all of it will be corroborated, but much already has been. The dossier is just one small piece of a very large puzzle that is being assiduously investigated by people whose standards of proof are and must be much higher than that of the raw intelligence in the dossier itself.
The Post's story simply isn't a bombshell. The Post's story also isn't new. It's old news. In fact, David Corn of Mother Jones reported it almost exactly a year ago, but without the breathless spin.
In June, the former Western intelligence officer—who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients—was assigned the task of researching Trump’s dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm. This was for an opposition research project originally financed by a Republican client critical of the celebrity mogul. (Before the former spy was retained, the project’s financing switched to a client allied with Democrats.) “It started off as a fairly general inquiry,” says the former spook, who asks not to be identified. But when he dug into Trump, he notes, he came across troubling information indicating connections between Trump and the Russian government. According to his sources, he says, “there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit.”
The Post's story simply isn't a bombshell. The Post's story also isn't new. It's old news. In fact, David Corn of Mother Jones reported it almost exactly a year ago, but without the breathless spin.
In June, the former Western intelligence officer—who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients—was assigned the task of researching Trump’s dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm. This was for an opposition research project originally financed by a Republican client critical of the celebrity mogul. (Before the former spy was retained, the project’s financing switched to a client allied with Democrats.) “It started off as a fairly general inquiry,” says the former spook, who asks not to be identified. But when he dug into Trump, he notes, he came across troubling information indicating connections between Trump and the Russian government. According to his sources, he says, “there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit.”
bravesnumberone
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They'll be back when Clinton gets arrested tomorrow.
bravesnumberone
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That GDP tho
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/...paul-manafort-subject-mueller-russia-probe?=0
A thus-far-reliable source who used to be involved with Clinton allies John and Tony Podesta told Tucker Carlson that press reports appearing to implicate President Trump in Russian collusion are exaggerated.
The source, who Carlson said he would not yet name, said he worked for the brothers' Podesta Group and was privy to some information from Robert Mueller's special investigation.
While media reports describe former "Black, Manafort & Stone" principal Paul Manafort as Trump's main tie to the investigation, the source said it is Manafort's role as a liaison between Russia and the Podesta Group that is drawing the scrutiny.
The source said the Podesta Group was in regular contact with Manafort while Hillary Clinton was America's chief diplomat.
In 2013, the group hired away one of Clinton's deputies, David Adams, effectively establishing contact between the Washington firm and Clinton's office in Foggy Bottom, D.C.
The source said Tony Podesta spoke regularly with Clinton and was the one who personally hired Adams.
During this time, the Uranium One deal was being facilitated by the White House.
According to Carlson, "Manafort was clear that Russia wanted to cultivate ties to Hillary" because she appeared to be the presumptive 45th president.