Yup...exactly why I asked him. He will never admit I but his 'solution' is effectively confiscation.
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Yup...exactly why I asked him. He will never admit I but his 'solution' is effectively confiscation.
I think the point is actually a fair one, if not a little cynical. The underlying point that a bunch of politicians and people with influence offering prayers instead of substantive dialogue on fixing the issue are part of the problem. Stretching that into the more ridiculous view of not offering sympathy and prayer (for those that believe in such things) in times of tragedy is pretty ****ed up in my opinion. We can offer condolences to people dealing with unspeakable grief and also try to look inward at our society to work toward preventing the next one.
A discussion we regularly fail to have as a nation.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Merica. It apparently sucks so bad that people break the law to come here every day.
Those other countries aren't the U.S. You can keep dreaming and pushing for a gun ban, or you can offer and discuss politically realistic solutions.
I think you agree with me that mental health care deserves higher prioritization. I expect that you would agree that mental health patients are unfairly stigmatized in a negative way compared to other sick and disabled people.
I would agree with you that bump stocks and similar hacks should be banned, and I would agree with making handgun regulations apply to all guns.
Substantial steps can be made if people across the country like you and I can discuss stuff like grownups and unite where we find common cause. Or I can mumble something about cold dead hands and you can holdout for European gun laws and we can get nowhere.
Who knows, maybe just changing the way people speak to each other would lessen the problem.
bravesnumberone
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For those who view the guns as off limits, what are some steps you propose to address the mental health crisis?
I don't view guns as off limit in just don't believe it actually solves anything.
My main reform for mental health is to stop prescribing antidepressants. I believe they are over distributed because the system incentives the principals down the chain.
57Brave
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David CornVerified account @DavidCornDC 52m52 minutes ago
David Corn Retweeted Washington Post
Well, I'm waiting for a major Trump mental health initiative that will provide affordable care to all with mental health issues. In the meantime, we can take steps to prevent people with violent histories from obtaining guns.
57Brave
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I laugh (not a ha ha laugh) at people vote against health care funding or insurance availability . Then when something of this nature happens blame it on lack of health care
Yes mental health is an isue.
But there is one common thread that runs through all shootings ...
Daniel DaleVerified account @ddale8 15h15 hours ago
25 dead would mean three of the five deadliest shootings in modern US history have come since last year - and two since last month.
Yes mental health is an isue.
But there is one common thread that runs through all shootings ...
Daniel DaleVerified account @ddale8 15h15 hours ago
25 dead would mean three of the five deadliest shootings in modern US history have come since last year - and two since last month.
You’ll never get the insurance companies on board.
BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
it's great trump wants to blame mental health instead of acknowledging that maybe guns play a role in this. but it would be better if he actually wanted to address mental health instead of weaken social programs meant to help solve it. everything is always all talk from him. he couldn't care less.
meanwhile, this is just going to keep happening. we take zero action, over and over, and just pray that it stops. it's not going to. next month we'll have another one. may not even take a month.
meanwhile, this is just going to keep happening. we take zero action, over and over, and just pray that it stops. it's not going to. next month we'll have another one. may not even take a month.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Did Lanza or Paddock have violent histories? The San Bernardino shooters? The Tsarnaevs? Dylann Roof?
Mr. Corn's plan does not seem likely to be impactful.
More blacks were killed last month by guns in Chicago than in that tragedy in Texas yesterday. But there’s never a mention from liberals about gun control when it’s minority on minority crime. Why is that? Only when whites are on the receiving end do liberals show up.
Sounds like liberals are the real racists
I'm not even necessarily talking about guns. The pro-gun side has moved to mental health, but when this happens we never actually have a dialogue about mental health. We excuse the loss of life on mental health, then move on to the next thing. Hell, at least with gun control we manage to talk about it for a week before forgetting about it.