The Trump Presidency

I also enjoyed how we are problems that need to be solved. And what is your solution oh great nsacpi?
 
Hawk said:
This. At the end of the day, people who actually vote largely eschew the trite sanctimony of public opinion and choose their candidate on the basis of one or two policies. The character angle is overplayed (and oftentimes greatly exaggerated).
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1) I don't think that's far off.

2) Even in light of the above, I'd argue that Trump is a bit of a special case because he seems to lack the most basic requirements of intellect, competence, and character to safely and credibly hold the office. Folks who are usually ideologically allergic to bureaucracy and unelected leadership are taking a LOT on faith in this administration.

3. I'm curious as to which one or two policies determined your vote.
 
What do you see trump actually doing that puts our country in danger. How are you gauging his intellect? His competance? These statements are thrown out there all the time but I have yet to see any IQ test results back that would indicate a lack of intellgence. Competancy? Do you think he was asleep at the wheel while his company grew?
 
thethe said:
How are you gauging his intellect? His competance? These statements are thrown out there all the time but I have yet to see any IQ test results back that would indicate a lack of intellgence. Competancy?
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I'm relying on Tillerson and McMaster for those assessments.
 
sticking up for racist garbage that represents us cause of a tax cut that won't benefit the large majority that put him office

that's where we are as a country now

great republic the republicans have molded/built for us
 
thethe said:
What do you see trump actually doing that puts our country in danger. How are you gauging his intellect? His competance? These statements are thrown out there all the time but I have yet to see any IQ test results back that would indicate a lack of intellgence. Competancy? Do you think he was asleep at the wheel while his company grew?
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Read a transcript of any interview he has done recently, softballs that they are. Whatever brain this guy once had has atrophied.

As for his company growing...dude. I give him credit for persistence but he'd be richer today if he'd just invested his inheritance, even conservatively. It's amazing how deferential to wealth and privelege some folks are.
 
Julio3000 said:
Read a transcript of any interview he has done recently, softballs that they are. Whatever brain this guy once had has atrophied.

As for his company growing...dude. I give him credit for persistence but he'd be richer today if he'd just invested his inheritance, even conservatively. It's amazing how deferential to wealth and privelege some folks are.
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Was there an article that did this ROI analysis?
 
thethe said:
What will the international community think of us?
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it's so weird to think this way imo

it's like one that thinks we got to where we are in our short stay as a leader/empire was done all by ourselves and we don't need anyone else etc etc

but we already know you took your 30 pieces of silver
 
goldfly said:
it's so weird to think this way imo

it's like one that thinks we got to where we are in our short stay as a leader/empire was done all by ourselves and we don't need anyone else etc etc

but we already know you took your 30 pieces of silver
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How did China treat the great ambassador that was Obama? They clearly respected him....

Should we care about the European leaders that have allowed Europe to rot from the inside?

But I know this is an emotional argument for you. Continue to travel the world with some type of fortune you amassed either through inheritance or because of the graces that is capitalism. I actually grew up with very little and can't afford the many luxuries you're able to enjoy. So when a candidate actually pushes for legislation that helps me damn right I'm going to be for it
 
thethe said:
How did China treat the great ambassador that was Obama? They clearly respected him....

Should we care about the European leaders that have allowed Europe to rot from the inside?

But I know this is an emotional argument for you. Continue to travel the world with some type of fortune you amassed either through inheritance or because of the graces that is capitalism. I actually grew up with very little and can't afford the many luxuries you're able to enjoy. So when a candidate actually pushes for legislation that helps me damn right I'm going to be for it
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i don't care

yes

cool
 
Yeah, since we don't have to worry about character and capacity any more, we should also dispense with respect for the office and basic decency towards our fellow man.

So...yes, dude is dumb as a ****ing brick. He's so dim and damaged that I would pity him if he weren't so fond of punching down, in wincingly vituperative fashion, towards those he apparently regards as inferior. It's no sin to be be dense or diminished, but why can't he just be an amiable dunce and not such a colossal ****heel on top of it all?

Watching you guys prop him up and make excuses for him is darkly hilarious.
 
Julio3000 said:
Yeah, since we don't have to worry about character and capacity any more, we should also dispense with respect for the office and basic decency towards our fellow man.

So...yes, dude is dumb as a ****ing brick. He's so dim and damaged that I would pity him if he weren't so fond of punching down, in wincingly vituperative fashion, towards those he apparently regards as inferior. It's no sin to be be dense or diminished, but why can't he just be an amiable dunce and not such a colossal ****heel on top of it all?

Watching you guys prop him up and make excuses for him is darkly hilarious.
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Defensee against baseless accusation's is equivalent to propping him up? In what world? Nobody has ever called trump an even decent human being. Some of us are just saying that shouldn't be a precursor to getting the presidency when faced against someone even more vile.
 
thethe said:
Was there an article that did this ROI analysis?
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Well, gosh, knowing his actual net worth would probably mean seeing his tax returns.

But, yeah. It's been covered a lot. Just indexing to the market would have created a fortune 3X bigger than what he amassed...basing it on an estimate of his NW which might be high anyway. That's not particularly impressive.
 
Julio3000 said:
Well, gosh, knowing his actual net worth would probably mean seeing his tax returns.

But, yeah. It's been covered a lot. Just indexing to the market would have created a fortune 3X bigger than what he amassed...basing it on an estimate of his NW which might be high anyway. That's not particularly impressive.
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I'm asking more because I'd be interested in reading it.
 
thethe said:
Defensee against baseless accusation's is equivalent to propping him up? In what world? Nobody has ever called trump an even decent human being. Some of us are just saying that shouldn't be a precursor to getting the presidency when faced against someone even more vile.
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So you think he's a smart guy?
 
Julio3000 said:
So you think he's a smart guy?
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I have absolutely no clue. Intelligence is very different than wisdom or being well learned of that's even something.

But the overwhelming sentiment that he's a buffoon because you all don't like him just shows immaturity IMO.
 
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