The Trump Presidency

Hawk said:
She's fantastic at her job - which is to spin the administration's various agendas and positions irrespective of merit or truth. She's done that, with relative grace and professionalism, in spite of a constant onslaught of vile misogyny and disgusting personal attacks. And, of course, a rabidly hostile press.
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that was tough for me to read and i would guess for you to type without laughing or breaking a smile at least

she's garbage at her job

i don't care that she isn't attractive. i care that she out right lies and peddles lies. she doesn't spin, she ****ing outright lies and should have been told to **** off by every reporter when she said she wouldn't take a question without being them starting with saying what they are thankful for
 
thethe said:
Considering you have no clue how to defend the first point I understand your response. You don't want minorities to understand how bad immigration has been to them. So if you don't want to acknowledge that fact I don't want to hear the left pretend they actually care about the minorities in this country. All you seem to want to do is import poverty into America which hurts everyone.

Also - Its obvious the left was going to make this play. Its not going to work just like all other shenanigans they have pulled the last 18 months.
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your first point was trying to pit 2 minority groups against each other

you then changed your comment with a different topic in the follow up
 
goldfly said:
that was tough for me to read and i would guess for you to type without laughing or breaking a smile at least

she's garbage at her job

i don't care that she isn't attractive. i care that she out right lies and peddles lies. she doesn't spin, she ****ing outright lies and should have been told to **** off by every reporter when she said she wouldn't take a question without being them starting with saying what they are thankful for
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Nah, she's not.

If you want to see garbage, remember Spicer or research Ziegler (who, incidentally, was 29. Sanders is 35, FWIW).

Sanders holds her own. You don't like her because she 'lies' - but that's the nature of the job.
 
thethe said:
The left doesn't care about the truth. They want to remove trump end of story. Pretending this is anything else is a disgrace.
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"The Left" loves Trump being the face of the GOP. It's good for Democrats, as long as he doesn't burn down the government, which he might be capable of doing.

The Press are just sharks and go where the stink is coming from.
 
Hawk said:
Nah, she's not.

If you want to see garbage, remember Spicer or research Ziegler (who, incidentally, was 29. Sanders is 35, FWIW).

Sanders holds her own. You don't like her because she 'lies' - but that's the nature of the job.
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there is a difference between outright lying and spinning
 
While I think she's done fine at her job, I think we need to stop perpetuating the fiction that any WH Press Secretary is dealing with any real "hostility" from the press. It's access journalism, and as symbiotic as it is essentially useless. They're all--including her--doing their jobs and mostly just doing a well-choreographed dance which mostly redounds to the benefit of the WH anyway.
 
Hawk said:
Nah, she's not.

If you want to see garbage, remember Spicer or research Ziegler (who, incidentally, was 29. Sanders is 35, FWIW).

Sanders holds her own. You don't like her because she 'lies' - but that's the nature of the job.
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She's good at the aggressive pushback. She's 10X better than Spicer, though that also probably means she's way more likely to be a sociopath.
 
Julio3000 said:
While I think she's done fine at her job, I think we need to stop perpetuating the fiction that any WH Press Secretary is dealing with any real "hostility" from the press. It's access journalism, and as symbiotic as it is essentially useless. They're all--including her--doing their jobs and mostly just doing a well-choreographed dance which mostly redounds to the benefit of the WH anyway.
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yep

if done properly that is

instead, like today, she stood up there and called the media "fake news"

she's garbage in my book
 
In the least surprising news of the day, Nikki Haley still wants to be president and doesn't think that handcuffing herself to the deck of the Titanic is the best way to go about it.
 
goldfly said:
your first point was trying to pit 2 minority groups against each other

you then changed your comment with a different topic in the follow up
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No I did not pit two minorities against each other. I put Americans vs non Americans and rhats the way it should be.
 
Julio3000 said:
While I think she's done fine at her job, I think we need to stop perpetuating the fiction that any WH Press Secretary is dealing with any real "hostility" from the press. It's access journalism, and as symbiotic as it is essentially useless. They're all--including her--doing their jobs and mostly just doing a well-choreographed dance which mostly redounds to the benefit of the WH anyway.
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Acosta's behavior this afternoon (for example) ... ain't access journalism. There's an element of symbiosis here as it pertains to the narrative of an overzealous, unscrupulous media, but press decorum has decidedly leapt out of the window over the past year. That's what I am referring to here.
 
goldfly said:
yep

if done properly that is

instead, like today, she stood up there and called the media "fake news"

she's garbage in my book
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She got up there and said the media was intentionally spreading false information.

Then walked out of the roof without providing meaningful specificity. Or tripping over her tongue.

And so the headlines read.

But, yeah, she's bad at her job. Gimme a break.
 
Hawk said:
Acosta's behavior this afternoon (for example) ... ain't access journalism. There's an element of symbiosis here as it pertains to the narrative of an overzealous, unscrupulous media, but press decorum has decidedly leapt out of the window over the past year. That's what I am referring to here.
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If you meet an asshole one day, you met an asshole. If you meet an asshole every day, maybe you're the asshole.
 
thethe said:
but press decorum has decidedly leapt out of the window over the past year.
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oh ****ing please

i expect something like this from the likes of thethe

edit: oh ****, i thought this was hawk posting that nonsense. lol thankfully it was the person i would think would say something so absurd like that. lol
 
Julio3000 said:
If you meet an asshole one day, you met an asshole. If you meet an asshole every day, maybe you're the asshole.
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But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil:
but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right
cheek, turn to him the other also.
 
Seriously, though, do you think that the President turning the twitter trolls loose on individual journalists and organizations is helping the temperature in the room?

I have a hard time keeping a straight face when you're criticizing media decorum but shrugging off the Trump Show as "endearing."
 
goldfly said:
oh ****ing please

i expect something like this from the likes of thethe

edit: oh ****, i thought this was hawk posting that nonsense. lol thankfully it was the person i would think would say something so absurd like that. lol
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That was hawk who said this and I wholeheartedly agree
 
Julio3000 said:
Seriously, though, do you think that the President turning the twitter trolls loose on individual journalists and organizations is helping the temperature in the room?

I have a hard time keeping a straight face when you're criticizing media decorum but shrugging off the Trump Show as "endearing."
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Oh and the press hasn't unleashed an army of sheep with their responsible reporting?
 
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