Acuna straight up for....

thewupk said:
Players like Acuna who don't have the big signing bonus aren't too difficult to extend for a couple of years as long as you don't really low ball them. And with his age they can still hit FA before they are 30. I expect the Braves to sign him to a deal that buys out 2 years of FA at some point as long as he doesn't bust.
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I hope you’re right, but the recent classes of Uber prospects haven’t signed extensions. That’s why we are about to see the most exciting FA class ever.

Acuna is all but guaranteed to make $20M+ by age 26. He will most likely bet on himself and go for a $400M payday when he’s 27.
 
Enscheff said:
I hope you’re right, but the recent classes of Uber prospects haven’t signed extensions. That’s why we are about to see the most exciting FA class ever.

Acuna is all but guaranteed to make $20M+ by age 26. He will most likely bet on himself and go for a $400M payday when he’s 27.
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Players like Heyward, Machado and Harper were all 1st round draft picks too with Heyward being drafted the latest at #7.

Acuna signed for 100K. Not that he won't ultimately try to bet on himself but I feel he would be more open to such a deal if the Braves approach him in a couple of years about it.
 
thewupk said:
Players like Heyward, Machado and Harper were all 1st round draft picks too with Heyward being drafted the latest at #7.
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Also don't think he'll be as productive as those 3 in his pre-arb years. Heyward generated 13.3 WAR in those years, Machado 16.7 and Harper 19.4.
 
nsacpi said:
Also don't think he'll be as productive as those 3 in his pre-arb years. Heyward generated 13.3 WAR in those years, Machado 16.7 and Harper 19.4.
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Maybe or maybe not. Two of those were defensive standouts and one had a season for the ages that he likely won't have again. I think Acuna has 10+ WAR by the time he hits arby though.
 
Forever Fredi said:
You’re really showing your age here 50.
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I don't know how you can say that. Here's this year's Christmas card. The family is youthful and fit as fiddles!

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You guys are overrating Yelich. Really good player, but not a star. He's basically a young Nick Markakis. He may get 25M annually on the open market, but he's not worth that over 6-8 years.
 
atl717 said:
You guys are overrating Yelich. Really good player, but not a star. He's basically a young Nick Markakis. He may get 25M annually on the open market, but he's not worth that over 6-8 years.
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You may want to review the production of Yelich vs Markakis again at similar ages.
 
I wouldn't trade him straight up for Yelich but would you consider him and a lesser prospect for Yelich and Realmuto?
 
Enscheff said:
You may want to review the production of Yelich vs Markakis again at similar ages.
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Very similar offensive profile. In Markakis age 25 season, he posted a 6 war season. Yelich hasn't sniffed that. Markakis defense fell off a cliff after that.
 
atl717 said:
Very similar offensive profile. In Markakis age 25 season, he posted a 6 war season. Yelich hasn't sniffed that. Markakis defense fell off a cliff after that.
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So based on the career season Markakis had at 25 you’re saying they are equivalent players?

I would suggest looking a bit deeper to understand why Yelich is a far superior player to Markakis at that age.
 
Enscheff said:
So based on the career season Markakis had at 25 you’re saying they are equivalent players?

I would suggest looking a bit deeper to understand why Yelich is a far superior player to Markakis at that age.
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OK I'll bite.

Markakis 9.9 BB% 14.5 K% .165 iso .329 BABIP

Yelich 10.7 BB% 20.6 K% .142 iso .356 BABIP

Don't see how he's far superior to Markakis at that age.

Yelich is better because of defense and baserunning, but not because of offense by some massive amount.
 
zitothebrave said:
OK I'll bite.

Markakis 9.9 BB% 14.5 K% .165 iso .329 BABIP

Yelich 10.7 BB% 20.6 K% .142 iso .356 BABIP

Don't see how he's far superior to Markakis at that age.

Yelich is better because of defense and baserunning, but not because of offense by some massive amount.
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Lol then I guess Yelich is Nick Markakis. Hopefully the Braves don’t fall on that land mine!

Or, more likely, Yelich will continue to be a better hitter after age 24 than Markakis was...like he already has done so far.
 
atl717 said:
Markakis was touted as a one of the better young hitters in the game. It's easy to forget now.
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Kinda funny actually.

He was #65 according to BA in 2005 behind names like Delmon Young (#3), Ian Stewart (#4), Joel Guzman (#5), Casey Kotchman (#6), Andy Marte (#9), Lastings Milledge (#11), Dallas McPherson (#12), Jeff Francoeur (#14), Jason Kubel (#17), Jeremy Hermida (#18), Brian Dopriak (#21), Nick Swisher (#24), Chris Nelson (#26), J. J. Hardy (#28), Felix Pie (#31), Daric Barton (#32), Jeremy Reed (#33), Eric Duncan (#36), Brian Anderson (#37), Erick Aybar (#39), Michael Aubrey (#41), Ryan Sweeney (#42), Josh Barfield (#45), Franklin Gutierrez (#54), Chris Burke (#60), Sergio Santos (#61), James Loney (#62), and Aaron Hill (#64).

Talk about a class that busted...wow. The only hitters that were ranked higher than Markakis that year that turned into much were Joe Mauer (#1), Rickie Weeks (#8), Hanley Ramirez (#10), Prince Fielder (#15), Carlos Quentin (#22), Ryan Howard (#27), Brian McCann (#44), Edwin Encarnacion (#56), and Curtis Granderson (#57). Certainly not a terrible class overall, but just another example of why being a Top 100 (or higher) guy doesn't necessarily make you a future "star".
 
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