Jecki Lon Memorial Star Wars Thread
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zitothebrave
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Third lesson was cut. Basically it involved an attack on the caretakers that Luke let be because it was the will of the force and Rey intervened and the lesson was that Rey was what the Resistance needed, not Luke. Paraphrased, but that's the jist. It was cut for a few reasons, will likely be in the blu-ray extras.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Except he did best her until she pulled a deadly weapon on him. But you've never been one to care about facts.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Why is anyone talented in the force?
As far as why in this case, it's almost certainly because the force awakened through her. It was pretty clearly stated in Force Awakens. If you read some of the material around it you'd find even more. The cosmic force went dormant at the end of the Civil War, it awoke during the events of the Force Awakens (hence the title of the film) and Rey and others were instantly powered in the force to combat the rise in the dark side.
sturg33
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Lol. So he wasn't brought to his knees at the mercy of the untrained girl?
He was out witted by the untrained girl to pull the Saber? He didn't overpower her force use?
Broski you aren’t the only person who internets and reads Star Wars stuff outside this website.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Luke wanted nothing to do with the lightsaber, why would he use it?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
It wasn't just intended for you.
sturg33
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To not get killed?
Hey - it's cool that you loved the fact that the untrained girl bested the most powerful figure left... Most of us aren't.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Maybe he knew that she wouldn't kill him. Maybe he was willing to die? Who knows.
What I do know is that the argument that Rey shouldn't be good at fighting with a staff/sword because she isn't a jedi is moronic. Again we see in TFA that she regularly carries around a quarterstaff. She uses it at one time to overpower 3 assailants on screen. You can tell that she's someone who's had to fight in a harsh desert environment to survive on her own for many years. There's no reason to believe she shouldn't be skilled with a quarterstaff or other simple melee weapon.
How often did Luke use his lightsaber before he held his own against Darth Vader, one of the most powerful Jedi and Sith ever? One who's lightsaber skills were said to compare to Mace Windu's, the only person to best Darth Sidious in a lightsaber battle. How could Luke a desert farm boy with minimal training handle himself so well against the most powerful figure (or second) left?
sturg33
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Yeah man... Rey was able to beat both Kylo Ren and Luke Skywalker because she carried around a staff all her life.
And obviously Vader was doing his very best to kill Luke in each of their duels.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
You think Luke or Kylo Ren were trying to kill Rey?
Rey beat Kylo in TFA because he just took a blaster to the stomach. They made it painfully obvious he wasn't anywhere close to 100%. And as zeets pointed out above Kylo was doing what Vader did to Luke. Beat but not kill so he could take them to his master.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Part of me wonders if sturg has even watched any Star Wars film seriously. I don't mean watched, but watched and rewatched and digested. Because most of what he's said is star wars patently isn't star wars. I'm fine with SAV's opinions. I didn't expect him to really like the film because we're on so very different portions of Star Wars fandom it isn't funny.
sturg33
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She also managed to out force him by pulling the light Saber.
When earlier in the movie kylo was able to stop bullets in mid air and read thoughts.
Just didn't make sense to me. But like I said if you like it then thats all that matters
sturg33
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No. I would expect both of them to not decisively lose their duels though.
But Rey was made to be this magical powerful character that requires no training.
Cool if you like that stuff. I dont
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Why would she need training in simple melee weapon combat? That's the part I don't understand. We're not talking about her force choking Luke and Ren. We're talking about simple melee.
ALso how did Ren decisively lose his duel? He lost because he wasn't fighting for anything other than trying to talk to her to convince her to join him and Snoke. When she tapped into the well of the force he wasn't prepared to add to the issue of him being severely wounded by a bowcaster bolt.
Again as far as luke, he only lost to her because she pulled a deadly weapon on him. If he wanted to kill her he could have, but that wasn't his way. As far as complaining about it too, Luke was retired, to make a movie comparison, it would be like Rocky 3, when Rocky wasn't fighting, and Clubber Lang was, he wasn't really trained, he was incredibly raw. But he beat Rocky because he grew soft from not using his abilities to the peak.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
This shows your lack of knowledge of Star Wars. Kyber Crystals "sing" to certain force users. And they're attuned to the light side of the force and often reject the callings of the Dark Side. Again remember the importance here of Rey having the saber call to her on Takodana. The kyber was bonded to her for a reason. Probably because she was part of the reawakening of the force, the force which created Anakin Skywalker.