Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

thethe said:
Oh man sir - You are in for a rude awakening. The writing is on the wall but you are too dug into your bunker to see it.
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If you'd like to put your credibility where your mouth is, I'll be happy to make a wager with you on forthcoming charges from the Russia investigation vs. the "real crimes."

Hawk's already spotted you some great leads, so you could probably get a win if you forward them to the relevant authorities.
 
Julio3000 said:
If you'd like to put your credibility where your mouth is, I'll be happy to make a wager with you on forthcoming charges from the Russia investigation vs. the "real crimes."

Hawk's already spotted you some great leads, so you could probably get a win if you forward them to the relevant authorities.
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Not sure what the point of a wager is - I'm just seeing the obvious dots and connecting. I guess you are comfortable with opposition research being used to get a FISA warrant. Your response is that wasn't all that was used. Then what percentage are you comfortable with? If it was relied on 50%? How about 25%?
 
thethe said:
Not sure what the point of a wager is - I'm just seeing the obvious dots and connecting. I guess you are comfortable with opposition research being used to get a FISA warrant. Your response is that wasn't all that was used. Then what percentage are you comfortable with? If it was relied on 50%? How about 25%?
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I'm not sure if it was used at all, uncorroborated. That's part of the issue, right? But the biggest part is wanting to know, which means wanting to know why the warrant was issued, in full, instead of relying on Nunes's staff's memo about it.
 
Julio3000 said:
I'm not sure if it was used at all, uncorroborated. That's part of the issue, right? But the biggest part is wanting to know, which means wanting to know why the warrant was issued, in full, instead of relying on Nunes's staff's memo about it.
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I want the full FISA warrant to be released but I think Trump is handling this masterfully. If he just released it right away when so little was known about the FBI shenanigans it would be seen as an attempt to obstruct the investigation. However, let the House work on it and have a slow trickling of information out so that the people of this country see the hypocrisy. The text messages / Campaign contributions to McCabes wife / etc... have been building a slow case for people to imagine a scenario where the FBI was not exactly impartial in this most important investigation. Now a memo summarizing what was in the FISA warrant will be made available which will increase the demand to release the warrant. At that point and that point alone will Trump declassify and it won't be seen as him attempting to squash the investigation. It will be at the request of the people of this country.
 
bravesnumberone said:
And these crusaders for truth refused to release the Dem response to their memo. That tells you all you need to know.
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Mistake - They should release all of it.

But why hasn't any other members of the house been allowed to see Schiffs memo? It seems everybody in Congress was permitted to view the Nunes memo.
 
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Heads are about to roll. Don't tell me this memo isn't damaging when we are seeing a potential exodus of staffing at the top levels of the FBI.
 
So you want to release a memo that the Congress hasn't been authorized to read? Why wouldn't it go through the same process as the Nunes memo?
 
This is all going to amount to another temporary distraction. It isn't the first and it will not be the last.
 
thethe said:
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Heads are about to roll. Don't tell me this memo isn't damaging when we are seeing a potential exodus of staffing at the top levels of the FBI.
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If you can point to people who are leaving under any type of cloud, please say so. Otherwise, you're just using this as another bull**** smokescreen.
 
thethe said:
If the memo shows that the Dossier was used in obtaining the warrant then do you have any issues?
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You continue to operate under the premise that the dossier is false. That is not the case at all.

To answer your earlier question, I got a little confused, I think. I'm fine with both memos undergoing the same process. But I'm not going to be surprised if the Republicans don't allow its release.
 
bravesnumberone said:
You continue to operate under the premise that the dossier is false. That is not the case at all.

To answer your earlier question, I got a little confused, I think. I'm fine with both memos undergoing the same process. But I'm not going to be surprised if the Republicans don't allow its release.
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The Dossier was characterized by Comey himself as salacious and unverified. To this day we still don't have clarity on what aspects have been verified so we clearly do not know what the FBI was able to vet prior to obtaining the warrant.
 
Julio3000 said:
If you can point to people who are leaving under any type of cloud, please say so. Otherwise, you're just using this as another bull**** smokescreen.
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So I can't reference reporting anymore because you don't like it? Well, that is nice.
 
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