Parkland School Shooting
- Thread starter Hawk
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We aren't the only country with gun violence in movies.
Taken was a French movie long before it got a US release.
The Departed was ripped straight by a Korean or Japanese movie.
Arnold, Stallone, Willis, etc. are all popular world wide because of their action movies with gun violence like Rambo, Terminator, Die Hard.
I could go on and on about this. Batman is strictly anti-gun.
Unfortunately news reports these mass murderers because people watch. Thats the downside of the free market news media. You have to compete for fluff stories, shootings, and the Anna Nicole-Smith stories.
I'm sure ICE breaking up DACA families is a good recipe as well, I know you agree.
I don't wanna hear thethe complain about families being devalued when he consistently shows no empathy or sympathy for DACA families being broken apart or people like the guy in Michigan who was here for 30 years, did no wrong and worked hard and had a family and was deported. Family doesn't mean anything to those people when you look at them as less than human and devalue their families.
And to channel cajun, the same people dont care about the war on drugs breaking up families because of the police state.
And to channel cajun, the same people dont care about the war on drugs breaking up families because of the police state.
As a rule no but each case should be looked at differently. If you are committing crimes that require jail time then I'd rather they be kicked out of the country.
This is already established in DACA. You must have no misdemeanors and have a clean record and be in school. That hasn't stopped you from posting non-sense about it either. You've been more concerned about the Dems not wanting to agree to a skewed immigration bill that has DACA in it so you can say gotcha.
We have laws in this country that you obviously don't care about. THis isn't an immigration thread but if you want it to be then fine. Illegals broke the law and they knew the ramifications of those when they did it. Why should I feel sorry for them? They took great risk and received great reward. That is the nature of the risk.
This man wasn't a DACA recipient so that has no bearing on the argument so its stupid to bring it up.
Well, good luck getting a gun in South Korea or Japan.
It's interesting, though, that both the Koreans and the Japanese love their mass murdering via knife.
I'm not just talking about movies. There's also video games and music. That culture doesn't exist in the same ways abroad as it does here.
It's bizarre that I know who Adam Lanza is, and could pick him out of a photo lineup, but couldn't name or identify a single one of the children he killed. I'm not buying the "it's about ratings" line.
57Brave
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Yeah those DACA kids who came here as 2 year olds new what they signed up for alright. Anyways I'm not here to discuss immigration.
Im simply saying Id rather not hear you complain about society degrading and family being devalued when some of your political positions contribute to it.
I believe in following laws and respecting sovereignty. Obviously you don't. He wasn't a DACA kid.
Ratings contribute. Unfortunately that's human psychology. They want to know how a human could do such a horrible thing and are interested in looking at a trainwreck. It's pretty similar to the bystander effect.
Besides if the coverage were non stop on the victims people would just say let them rest in peace and stop exploiting their names.
I never said he was a DACA kid... wut.
You brought up DACA originally. This was not an example of a DACA family.
Nevermind - I see. The point still remains. I believe in our laws and sovereignty.
I think for school related shootings at least, keeping several armed police officers on site at all times would help. Shooters will think twice about shooting up place if they know people in that place also have guns and are also trained.
At the very least, it seems like a better use of our police force than setting up speed traps, DUI checkpoints, and busting people for an ounce of weed.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
The truth of this is hard to overstate. I picked up a pistol last year for 60% of what it cost during Obama's presidency. AR variant prices have fallen even more, you can pick some up for $400 today, when it was tough to find them under $1k before. And despite those prices, the quantity of new gun sales continues to drop.
I disagree. There's a fine line between exploiting the victims and making sure that their stories are told/grief adequately considered.
We just need to start holding ourselves to a higher standard and stop excusing immoral actions.
I'm one of those people that has a morbid fascination with the killers. Dave Cullen's book Columbine is like the holy grail on that score.
But we don't have to name them, and we don't have to put their faces on TV (or magazines or newspapers). At least not initially. There's got to be a better way.
You talk about human psychology, but take a moment and analyze the other side of that coin. Many of the individuals perpetrating these crimes are bullied or ostracized to the point of psychic break. One of their delusions (which, ironically, isn't that delusional) is their actions will elevate them to a status more popularly remembered than any of the people that once belittled them. And it's true.
We've gotta stop that.