Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

Julio3000 said:
What you're saying, in essence, is that there's no evidence that would convince you.
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No, I'm just saying this should not be considered case closed.

What we do know is that information was created already to further an investigation so that precedent was set.
 
I agree the case is not closed...but all along it has been much more likely than not a Russian intelligence operation...this reinforces my view...but there is some residual uncertainty
 
My personal opinion--and it is merely that--is that Stone was probably perfectly aware that his position was bull**** (that article in Breitbart in Aug 2016 is truly something) but was probably not legally complicit. It makes him, by my lights, a morally culpable ****heel but probably not indictable. Smart enough to maintain plausible deniability but transparently shady.

Which is actually a decent template for how I thought the whole Russia collusion issue might break down. I guess we'll see.
 
I have to say that Stone's 2016 Guccifer apolologia and the concurrent campaign messaging comes across looking like massive gaslighting. That's not to say that it proves complicity, but the timing of what's known now about Russian pitches to the campaign suggests that at the least, they were willing to wittingly, collectively obfuscate the truth for a short-term benefit. They knew. It's silly to suggest otherwise at this point.
 
Julio3000 said:
I have to say that Stone's 2016 Guccifer apolologia and the concurrent campaign messaging comes across looking like massive gaslighting. That's not to say that it proves complicity, but the timing of what's known now about Russian pitches to the campaign suggests that at the least, they were willing to wittingly, collectively obfuscate the truth for a short-term benefit. They knew. It's silly to suggest otherwise at this point.
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Yeah. I think anyone who doesn't avert their gaze can see this. Which is not the same as saying it can be proven in a court of law.
 
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