Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

sturg33 said:
Nope. It's 100% unconstitutional. If the Dems are comfortable being complete hypocrites (lol right?), they could take him down
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well, I think if they do impeach him they will do it on firmer grounds

and of course the Dems are not in a position to do this at the moment

I do wonder what the Republicans would do if the evidence for collusion/collaboration/conspiracy becomes incontrovertible in the next few months.
 
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nsacpi said:
well, I think if they do impeach him they will do it on firmer grounds

and of course the Dems are not in a position to do this at the moment

I do wonder what the Republicans would do if the evidence for collusion/collaboration/conspiracy becomes incontrovertible in the next few months.
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How is it not firm grounds? It's a clear violation. Trump acknowledged this himself years ago

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I wouldn't count on that your collision fairytale.

The freedom caucus would support impeachment I suspect
 
nsacpi said:
well, I think if they do impeach him they will do it on firmer grounds

and of course the Dems are not in a position to do this at the moment

I do wonder what the Republicans would do if the evidence for collusion/collaboration/conspiracy becomes incontrovertible in the next few months.
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Republicans are experts at burying their head in the sand when inconvenient facts come out. There could be a tape release of a Trump/Putin/Melania threesome in the oval office and Republicans wouldnt care.
 
I'm not a fan of Comey's book tour. I understand his need for writing the book but I don't want to watch him sully himself in these interviews. Everyone knows who Trump is. What can he tell us that's really new?

I think justice would be better served if he'd just publish the book and stay off the talk circuit.
 
Cohen is sticking to his guns, and since it's very unlikely that we're going to see anything derived from foreign intel agencies made public, it's still a he said/he said proposition.

On one hand, until there's further corroboration of the McClatchy story, it seems like it's still an open question. On the other hand, it seems like Cohen would be able to prove that he was where he said he was within a window of 2-3 weeks. Credit card receipts, photos, et al...

Right now, given the choice between a reputable news org with two sources on a story developed over months, and Michael Cohen, I'm leaning towards McClatchy.

Back to All the President's Men: "The truth is, these guys aren't that bright, and things got out of hand."

Richard Nixon was 10X the operator and 100X the intellect of Donald Trump. His inner circle was smarter, more competent, and (with one notable exception) more loyal than Trump's. They still crashed and burned, although it took years.

I'm sure there will be more twists and turns that are currently unforseeable, but right now I think it looks pretty bad for Trump. If the bright lights shining on Cohen lead to opening the Trump Org books, there's going to be a whole new dimension of ugliness inbound, one that might be parallel, but might also intersect with the Russia angle. Corrupt overseas dealings with all kinds of miscreants, more payoffs, more dirt. I will be genuinely shocked if it's not a bloodbath, with the possibility of Junior and Ivanka being pulled in for good measure.

The 2018 election is going to turn into a rearguard action to protect the President, and that's going to be a wild time, indeed.

The question I keep coming back to is why people couldn't see this coming a mile away.
 
nsacpi said:
the choice is Cohen versus sources...tough choice

btw still think Guccifer 2.0 was some 400 pound guy in mama's bssement?
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Well I never thought that but I still don't believe we have been provided with actual proof who performed the hack.

And again - These stories are so casually put together with the term 'a source close to the investigation' or 'a source with information about the investigation'. We are continually told how Mueller is this old fashioned investigative detective playing everything close to the hip and yet there are many sources who seem to get information. Those two can't really exist simultaneously so which is it?
 
thethe said:
Well I never thought that but I still don't believe we have been provided with actual proof who performed the hack.

And again - These stories are so casually put together with the term 'a source close to the investigation' or 'a source with information about the investigation'. We are continually told how Mueller is this old fashioned investigative detective playing everything close to the hip and yet there are many sources who seem to get information. Those two can't really exist simultaneously so which is it?
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well the outfits who broke the Cohen to Prague and Guccifer stories have track records that we can assess. I'm not asking you to accept my assessment.
 
thethe said:
Well I never thought that but I still don't believe we have been provided with actual proof who performed the hack.

And again - These stories are so casually put together with the term 'a source close to the investigation' or 'a source with information about the investigation'. We are continually told how Mueller is this old fashioned investigative detective playing everything close to the hip and yet there are many sources who seem to get information. Those two can't really exist simultaneously so which is it?
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Why not? We know very little of the details of what Mueller has amassed so far. It's all going to be in his report.

But Michael Cohen has more to worry about. His dirty secrets are being poured over by people outside of Mueller's team.
 
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