Touki Toussaint doesn't get enough recognition.

Touki has terrible command, period. Difference is, and something I certainly seem to forget about him quite a bit for some reason, is that he is still only 22.

Guys like Newk and Fried are past the age where they are likely to markedly improve their command, but Touki is not. He should not be lumped in that group yet.

He still has 1-2 more seasons until we need to start worrying about his poor command being terminal.
 
Enscheff said:
Touki has terrible command, period. Difference is, and something I certainly seem to forget about him quite a bit for some reason, is that he is still only 22.

Guys like Newk and Fried are past the age where they are likely to markedly improve their command, but Touki is not. He should not be lumped in that group yet.

He still has 1-2 more seasons until we need to start worrying about his poor command being terminal.
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So much of this. I wouldn't earmark him for the pen before we know his command won't get better. Think of it like this : when I first saw him, he usually sat at 70 pitches in the third /4th inning. No efficient innings due to command. His other peripherals are really pretty good so to Enscheff's point, I think it's about 2 years too soon to worry about the pen. (I'm not making the umpire excuse, but that curve is deadly)!
 
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TheBravos said:
Prospect fatigue. He is still very up and down though. One day he is lights out and the next day getting torched.

He could be a stud closer. I’m afraid he will remind us of Viz....who makes me nervous every time he comes in (because you never know what Viz shows up each day).

Think of a pen that has Minter, Touki, and Weigel...it’s coming.
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And Fried.
 
Weigel seemed to me to be the most likely of that first wave to succeed as a starter. Think he might have succeeded but for injury.

Wouldn’t have pigeonholed him as a reliever.
 
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