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Positioning has certainly helped some.

Also a good portion of his plus defense so far is from his arm. Now that is something I think is just a fluke and not something I would expect to continue. So I would put that in the good start category. Still, Neck's overall game so far has been impressive.

At the end of the year Neck will be around his career averages. Love him or hate him you can't deny he is consistent. The difference in 26 year old neck and 34 year old neck is not that big.
 
Do you think he changed something. Not sure I agree. Just a good start. Or you referring to defensive positioning.

A TC article from yesterday mentioned two things: an improvement in launch-angle that, whether intentional/sustainable or not, has lead to a lot more LDs over MIF’s heads, and a lot fewer GOs to 2B; and a substantial increase to both the number of strikes Markakis is being thrown and the percent at which he’s swinging at those strikes. The speculation was that the latter two, likely twinned developments were more meaningful, but I’m not qualified to say.
 
I don't think many expected Coppy/Hart to get fired and actually have an analytics minded front office come in and help Neck

I don't doubt that there are plenty of potential explanations for his improved play early this season, and also don't think the vast majority of fans really care what they are at the end of the day. They're great for discussion around here (whether you're a big numbers person or not), but the typical fan at best likely has gained a loose understanding of the $/WAR discussion - and those folks will look at it and say "I have no idea why people complain about Markakis - he's earned his money a lot more than tons of guys", and they'd be right if he continues his good play.

Most of us that aren't as numbers-driven as some aren't Joe, and really do appreciate the "new math" more than we're given credit for - we're just more interested in the fact that the team is playing well than when it's going to end or why (if/when it does). It's a lot more fun to watch games when you're not being quite so analytical - it really is (for me, anyway).
 
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I don't doubt that there are plenty of potential explanations for his improved play early this season, and also don't think the vast majority of fans really care what they are at the end of the day. They're great for discussion around here (whether you're a big numbers person or not), but the typical fan at best likely has gained a loose understanding of the $/WAR discussion - and those folks will look at it and say "I have no idea why people complain about Markakis - he's earned his money a lot more than tons of guys", and they'd be right if he continues his good play.

Most of us that aren't as numbers-driven as some aren't Joe, and really do appreciate the "new math" more than we're given credit for - we're just more interested in the fact that the team is playing well than when it's going to end or why (if/when it does). It's a lot more fun to watch games when you're not being quite so analytical - it really is (for me, anyway).

Yeah I think that addition at the end is pretty important. I played baseball my whole life until I was 19 and up until that point didn't know anything about analytics. Around that time I started to learn more about. I've enjoyed watching the game more in the past 8-9 years than I ever did before that.
 
Yeah I think that addition at the end is pretty important. I played baseball my whole life until I was 19 and up until that point didn't know anything about analytics. Around that time I started to learn more about. I've enjoyed watching the game more in the past 8-9 years than I ever did before that.

That's just it - the "old-timers" (like me and quite a few others who don't post regularly anymore because they don't feel like being dragged into the constant back-and-forth) who watched the game for decades before you were born remember what it was like when we didn't all have smartphones (or the need for so much netting around the field since we were paying more attention - while working on improving our "eye tests" LOL) and aren't "idiots" who call the new information hogwash like Chip and Joe, but we do enjoy watching without getting too caught up in the numbers.

It doesn't have to be one way or the other - when some of us are looking for explanations for something we can't quite wrap our heads around, it's awesome to look further into the numbers like we can today. We just don't care to constantly be bludgeoned by them.
 
Old timers are just a little upset that they aren’t the baseball experts they thought they were. The nerds they used sports to differentiate themselves from are now better at understanding the the game than they are.

They much preferred the time when knowing what quailified as an RBI or an earned run made them smart.

It doesn’t sit well with guys who aren’t nerds and aren’t athletes. They essentially have nothing now.
 
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Old timers are just a little upset that they aren’t the baseball experts they thought they were. The nerds they used sports to differentiate themselves from are now better at understanding the the game than they are.

They much preferred the time when knowing what quailified as an RBI or an earned run made them smart.

It doesn’t sit well with guys who aren’t nerds and aren’t athletes. They essentially have nothing now.

cold blooded
 
I feel like the league needs to grow exponentially more forward-thinking about showcasing new analytics. This can be done without throwing the old timers off kilter, but the evolution really needs to happen sooner rather than later. The regional sports networks should update their graphics packages and stat presentations. Even if the actual color commentary isn't laced with modern analytics and related discourse, there are ways to go about moving the ball down the field that are much more efficient than whatever it is that's happening now.

For example, Savant is so much fun to tinker with, but it's hidden and barely navigable. That broad set of Statcast data needs to be better incorporated into Gameday and elsewhere across the MLB digital sphere. It's still treated as a kind of red-headed stepchild and that's both odd and unfortunate.

From a marketing perspective, how does it not make total sense to develop out a 'tech lite' persona using analytics and the measuring technology already in place? Fits the 18-30 demo like a glove.

MLBAM was almost a decade ahead of its time with streaming - yet there is a ball being dropped here.
 
Old timers are just a little upset that they aren’t the baseball experts they thought they were. The nerds they used sports to differentiate themselves from are now better at understanding the the game than they are.

They much preferred the time when knowing what quailified as an RBI or an earned run made them smart.

It doesn’t sit well with guys who aren’t nerds and aren’t athletes. They essentially have nothing now.

And those nerds are still nerds and will still never accomplish anything athletically, so they try to make themselves feel better because they can use a calculator yet still can't hit or throw.
 
And those nerds are still nerds and will still never accomplish anything athletically, so they try to make themselves feel better because they can use a calculator yet still can't hit or throw.

Except for the nerds that also played D1 ball.

Where did the old timers play? Any notable athletic accomplishments?

Or are they just a big bunch of nothings overall?
 
And those nerds are still nerds and will still never accomplish anything athletically, so they try to make themselves feel better because they can use a calculator yet still can't hit or throw.

Now they decide when players can't hit or throw anymore by not giving them jobs.
 
"d1" vs old-timers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NnBgetmr6E
 
I'm still waiting for a list of notable athletic accomplishments...

Ever hit a ball out of Billy Hebert Field, where the A ball team for the A's plays?

Ever clocked a 6.8s 60 yard dash in front of an MLB scout?

I'd love to hear some athletic accomplishments of the old timers.
 
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I'm still waiting for a list of notable athletic accomplishments...

Ever hit a ball out of Billy Hebert Field, where the A ball team for the A's plays?

Ever clocked a 6.8s 60 yard dash in front of an MLB scout?

I'd love to hear some athletic accomplishments of the old timers.

The spin rate on my curveball is 1300 RPM.
 
I'm still waiting for a list of notable athletic accomplishments...

Ever hit a ball out of Billy Hebert Field, where the A ball team for the A's plays?

Ever clocked a 6.8s 60 yard dash in front of an MLB scout?

I'd love to hear some athletic accomplishments of the old timers.

2016 Saturday night vs A's at turner field... that was me that streaked. I'm the streaker!

Not really, but I was sitting fairly close haha
 
Old timers are just a little upset that they aren’t the baseball experts they thought they were. The nerds they used sports to differentiate themselves from are now better at understanding the the game than they are.

They much preferred the time when knowing what quailified as an RBI or an earned run made them smart.

It doesn’t sit well with guys who aren’t nerds and aren’t athletes. They essentially have nothing now.

Don't forget to remind us that you didn't (never) start it.
 
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