MONDAY MINORS FINAL 8/13/18: One-hit mastery x 2

Chico said:
I don't think we have to figure out what the long term rotation is going to be this offseason. Keep who you think has more to prove and trade whoever you think has plateaud.

I think we should have 6 guys we count on to fill the 5th spot with the other 5 in AAA. So we could probably trade 2 of the guys listed below. The problem is most here would say Gohara and Allard. That makes us very Right handed and we probably wouldn't get as much for them.

Soroka, Gohara, Fried, Touki, Wright, Allard, Wilson, Weigel,
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I thought Weigel was a high-leverage bullpen arm even before his injury.
 
smootness said:
I thought Weigel was a high-leverage bullpen arm even before his injury.
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Well, so was Touki and Bryse Wilson if you listen to some scouts.

He very well could be, but there wasn't any plan that I'm aware of to abandon him as a starter.
 
Rio Ruiz has been coming on. I still hold out hope he can be a useful bench player. He's learned to play corner outfield and first this season.
 
Chico said:
Well, so was Touki and Bryse Wilson if you listen to some scouts.

He very well could be, but there wasn't any plan that I'm aware of to abandon him as a starter.
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He was likely going to get a shot at the rotation before Newcomb.

I get the sense that Weigel to the bullpen is a consensus that was formed shortly after he was drafted. I haven't quite understood why it had such force, though his injury setback might force it on him. He might have lost his window of opportunity. We'll see.
 
Southcack77 said:
Kyle Wright 1 hit, 1bb, 7 k through 6IP.

Twitter has him still hitting 95 in the 6th.
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Wright has plugged along just fine, but this is the type of performance I expected from a guy in the discussion for the #1 pick.

Hopefully we see him make his debut sometime in 2019.
 
Heyward said:
We have too much pitching lol, like even if Julio is traded you have a top 5 of Gaus, Newk, Folty, Soroka, Touki and one spot for Gohara, Anderson, Wright it's sad and amazing at the same time.

Not even mentioning Wentz, Muller, Wilson, Allard, Wiegel, Ynoa, etc.

It's absurd.
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Anderson and Wentz are currently in A ball, there is no reason to even think about making room for them anywhere...

SP is certainly a strength, but there is no need to trade guys just to clear some perceived logjam.

The good news is there is no reason to sign that $10M+ veteran guy to round out the rotation, as the opening day rotation will likely be Folty, Gaus, Newk and Teheran.

The Braves have used 12 SPs so far this year, and we know AA values pitching depth above almost everything else (he learned it from the Dodgers).

The other 8 guys who have started a game for the Braves this season:

Sanchez - gone
Soroka - likely needs time in AAA, will likely not be allowed to pitch a full 180+ inning load in 2019
Fried - candidate for 2019 rotation, can be shuttled up and down
Wisler - gone
McCarthy - gone
Touki - candidate for 2019 rotation, can be shuttled up and down, still has a lot of work to do on command
Gohara - candidate for 2019 rotation, can be shuttled up and down, still has a lot of work to do on being a pro
Allard - not a SP option imo

So that's 4 guys in the rotation on opening day for sure, and 4 more that can ride the AAA shuttle...a total of 8 SPs.

They will need more...

Wright - candidate for 2019 rotation, can be shuttled up and down

That's about it for guys who could realistically impact the 2019 MLB rotation.

That's 9 SPs...and the Braves have already used 12 so far this year. This notion that there is some logjam that must be cleared is silly and completely uninformed. After all, they had to trade for Gaus this year because they didn't have enough quality MLB SP options.
 
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Anderson is now in AA.

He obviously won't have a spot for him at least until the very end of next year, but he's closer than I think anybody thought he'd be at this point.
 
Everyone is down on allard. Trade value likely nothing. Think we could try and make a loogy throwing junk?
 
smootness said:
If Soroka is healthy, he has a no-doubt rotation spot. We have 4 rotation spots covered going into next year, it's the 5th that is up in the air between probably Touki, Gohara, and Wright as of right now. I do agree with you for the most part there.

It's just the 'for the next couple years' that I took some issue with, only because of the incredible uncertainty with pitching. There's just no way to project even that far out.
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When thinking in the terms of the next couple of years, I was more thinking of the average main-stays. I also agree with Soroka being a no doubt rotation spot if healthy (and specifically said that in my original post as well). I am just skeptical... a 60 day DL stint for a shoulder after it didn't heal from the first stint is very concerning. Tommy John is no big deal to me anymore... a shoulder problem that lingers can be a career killer and it seems to take a good long while to actually figure out if its an actual problem or simply just fatigue/temporary injury. In also thinking of averaging out the next couple of years, I don't include Teheran because I think he will be gone in some form or fashion somewhat soon... considering he's only signed through next year. So, I am not projecting the rotation for the next couple of years... for the first time I'm just seeing sustained success in the young guys (unlike with the Wisler, Blair, etc... experiments) and we have 2 or 3 guys that could really make a push to be a dominant ace. Based on the peripherals and what I've watched... the guys I listed are the ones that I see the most high end potential with and are currently pitching solid in the majors or are knocking on the door.
 
Allard's only 20. I think there is time to make him into something. Remember, Mike Minor was kind of a junkballer early in his minors career and then got some velo later on.
 
jpx7 said:
That sounds a lot like a reinvention ...
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And/or made it just improvements. Not changing him. It is just like when I added shutters to my double wide. I didn’t change it really just improved it. Or that spoiler kit for my 89 civic. Still a civic. Just rockin cool now.
 
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