The Trump Presidency

Can't see how anyone can rationally say Trump isnt in the slightest involved in influencing the rhetoric that has led to the actions of these mentally ill people. The gaslighting he's enabled to become mainstream.

The movement didn't start under him, but it has certainly expanded, grown, and thrived under him.
 
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Josh Marshall Retweeted Sarah Sanders

To paraphrase Andrew Gillum, I'm not saying Trump's an anti-Semite.

But anti-Semites think he's an anti-Semite. And I can tell you myself that

Trump has never had a problem with that.
 
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Ronald Rump said:
Can't see how anyone can rationally say Trump isnt in the slightest involved in influencing the rhetoric that has led to the actions of these mentally ill people. The gaslighting he's enabled to become mainstream.

The movement didn't start under him, but it has certainly expanded, grown, and thrived under him.
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I'm torn on this one. I think Trump is akin to pond scum but I never thought he would be this undignified as President. We can argue all day about the policies his administration has pursued, but, for the most part, the tax cuts and regulatory reform would have been at or near the top of the list of any Republican that inhabited the White House and with top-to-bottom control of Congress, those changes were likely to happen although the magnitude may have been slightly different. Same with judicial appointments.

But at some level, even the most p*ssed-off Americans have to utilize their executive function and realize that random acts of violence are outside the boundaries of societal behavioral norms. As someone who grew up during the 1960s when there was plenty of racial and anti-war violence, this isn't the first time I have witnessed this level of anger. The difference then was that most of the violence then was property-related and somewhat more organized, but there were plenty of bombings that claimed lives (on both sides) and attempted bombings that would have claimed lives. I think our politics broke in the 1960s and things have been a patchwork since. It has just come to a very ugly head right now.
 
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A 97-year-old woman got murdered in her house of a worship because she had to pay for Soros' "transgressions" and the spooky caravan of starving Hondurans who will devour us all.

It's sickening but I don't know how we ever fix this. Half this country is blind. A third of it is completely gone, morally vacant.
 
50PoundHead said:
I pray that you are joking.
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Yeah, trying to lighten the mood by poking fun at the "The Clintons suicide anyone in their way"/Vince Foster type conspiracy theories. It obviously worked as well as most of my attempts at humor. I'm no nsacpi.
 
Runnin said:
The "optics" are pretty clear. "No reason for us to not be happy."


On Saturday, after 11 people were murdered inside the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, President Trump still went on with his scheduled rally in Indiana, where his team played the Pharrell Williams song "Happy," much to the artist's dismay
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Trump's inability to observe solemnity is beyond ludicrous. Eleven people shot up at a synagogue and he's worried about Dave Roberts' ability to handle his pitching staff. Every President has their share of tone-deaf moments, but those gaffes and missteps usually involve a aggressive phrase or action related to a policy initiative and are stated or performed succinctly. I used to think Trump was "crazy like a fox." Now I think he's just an unmoored narcissist.
 
The current season of Rake on Netflix shows our hero Cleaver Greene as a member of the Australian Parliament and the shows really do a send-up on what's happening over here, including the injection of the term "fake news." I was listening to NPR yesterday (and I realize NPR is suspect in some quarters), but the person being interviewed made the valid point that there is "fake news" and that there is also news that some just disagree with. She put a lion's share of Trump's complaints in the latter category.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Fake news used to be called manufactured consent and is/was primarily used by government to give the illusion of choice.
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Propaganda and PR. I get that and that's been going on since the dawn of the Republic (and before that in the Eastern Hemisphere). I think the difference here is that Trump and company just spin things out of pure air.
 
bravesnumberone said:
A 97-year-old woman got murdered in her house of a worship because she had to pay for Soros' "transgressions" and the spooky caravan of starving Hondurans who will devour us all.

It's sickening but I don't know how we ever fix this. Half this country is blind. A third of it is completely gone, morally vacant.
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I feel less sorry for these religious people murdered in churches. Its god's will, right? I wonder how many of these people voted to cage innocent people based on their beliefs. Old white church goers are the last major demographic holding back marijuana legalization. Quite frankly if you are one of those people I dont feel sorry for you one bit. Thats just karma biting you in the ass. Dont advocate violence against innocent people then expect my sympathy when someone does it to you.
 
50PoundHead said:
Propaganda and PR. I get that and that's been going on since the dawn of the Republic (and before that in the Eastern Hemisphere). I think the difference here is that Trump and company just spin things out of pure air.
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No the difference is we have access to ****loads of media and information. Imagine we were reading all this Trump stuff through newspapers with no tv news or internet.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I feel less sorry for these religious people murdered in churches. Its god's will, right? I wonder how many of these people voted to cage innocent people based on their beliefs. Old white church goers are the last major demographic holding back marijuana legalization. Quite frankly if you are one of those people I dont feel sorry for you one bit. Thats just karma biting you in the ass. Dont advocate violence against innocent people then expect my sympathy when someone does it to you.
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A lot of those "old white church goers" were smoking dope in the 60s and 70s. Maybe young people smoking it today should ask them why they hold their current opinion, instead of wishing them "murdered in churches."

Cajun, you should think about how your tone has changed over the past few years when discussing this stuff, and then reevaluate just how harmless of a substance it is. Lollipops and candy bars and soda pop don't instill that kind of ugliness in a person, but you aren't the first I've seen turn hateful over this so called recreational drug.
 
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