2018 Offseason And Targets

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Asked to describe his talks with the Phillies last night, Boras said "I'll leave that to the Phillies." Not the kind of response you'd expect if things went well in his eyes.
 
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Rays are among teams to circle back on Realmuto. They have the young players to make it work if want. Zunino acquired a few weeks back, so interesting.
 
Enscheff said:
Agree with the hesitation to trade Gohara. I mainly used him because there’s been smoke he is on the block and he’s the type of talent the Yankees turn into impact contributors. If I had the Yankees pitching development team at my disposal, the arms I would target from the Braves as buy low options would be Fried and Gohara. I think Fried is a plus sinker waiting to happen, and Gohara is a reasonable gamble to take on a potentially elite arm.

I don’t have Gray/Frazier as my favorite option. In fact, I’m not in favor of adding a SP at all unless it was something like the value the Yankees got in the Paxton deal for a truly elite impact pitcher. I think it’s foolish to spend any resources on a SP unless it’s a clear win in terms of value and impact. Thor is another example of a move I’d be in favor of if the value was good.

I’m saying that’s the move I’d bet on happening based on the resources the Braves have remaining and the apparent intent on adding a SP as well as an OF.
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Gray is a FA after this season and I can see that as something of a plus for the front office. If it looks like we're not going to be able to get a TOR starter, getting a guy like Gray to fill out the rotation and who wont soak up resources beyond this year could be an attractive option for AA. Especially since Gray is a bit of a bounce back candidate. It's definitely something I could see the front office doing.

Personally, I'd probably rather see the Braves give guys like Wright, Fried, Touki, Soroka, and Gohara a chance to fight it out over the last spot or two in the rotation. I think there's a good chance you'd get more production.

I'm so concerned that as soon as we deal someone like Fried or Gohara, that's when they'll turn the corner and break out. These aren't High-A pitchers. These are major league ready, controllable assets. If it clicks for one of them, they could be a 3 WAR pitcher very quick.
 
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Rays are among teams to circle back on Realmuto. They have the young players to make it work if want. Zunino acquired a few weeks back, so interesting.
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Realmuto would be a really really good addition to the Rays. It may put them over the top, actually.
 
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Realmuto would be a really really good addition to the Rays. It may put them over the top, actually.
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Correct...as far as the AL goes this year, you'd imagine that the Red Sox win the east, Indians win the central, and the Astros win the West.

From there you have basically a 3 team race between the Yankees, Rays, and A's as WC options. The A's are suspect as far as repeating what they did last season. There is a real good chance that the east has 3 playoff teams next season
 
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Source: #Rays, Charlie Morton in agreement on a free agent contract. @TBTimes_Rays was first to report. @MLBNetwork @MLB
 
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If we can move Teheran as part of a deal to get an outfielder on a low salary, we would have room to add Happ.

For example Teheran plus Fried to the Twins for Kepler.

Sign Happ (2 year deal with vesting third year is probably what it would take...AAV of about 16M)

Sign Anibal one-year deal at 5M

The salaries of Happ, Anibal and Kepler would be about 23M

We save 11M by moving Teheran, so the net addition is 12M. Leaves us some funds to get a reliever.

Our rotation is Folty, Happ, Newk, Suarez and one of Touki, Soroka and Gohara. We have a good group of near-major league ready starters in AAA (Wright, Wilson, Allard in addition to two of the ones competing for the final spot in the rotation).
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You forgot Gausman. I don't think we'll add TWO starters to the mix. It would just take too many starts away from our young guys in a scenario like this.
 
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Source confirms: Charlie Morton to #Rays. Two years, $30M, per @JeffPassan. First with deal being near: @TBTimes_Rays.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Correct...as far as the AL goes this year, you'd imagine that the Red Sox win the east, Indians win the central, and the Astros win the West.

From there you have basically a 3 team race between the Yankees, Rays, and A's as WC options. The A's are suspect as far as repeating what they did last season. There is a real good chance that the east has 3 playoff teams next season
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I wouldnt say the Sox are a lock to win the East but they should be the favorites.
 
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Reds and Marlins continue to engage on Realmuto, though Cincy has so far held the line and not agreed to include Nick Senzel
 
Chico said:
Last year Kepler had an improved BB rate, lower K rate, much improved defense and registered his lowest BABIP of his career. Also being from Germany he hasn't played nearly as much baseball as baseball rat kids in the US or in Central American countries where kids play year round. You could make the case that he could be a late bloomer in that regard as well. Although, I don't give that thesis as much weight as the improved peripherals.

I think he could have a breakout year.
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Max Kepler is exactly the type of player that the Dodgers have gone after in the past to build up their depth. The find these players that other teams are undervaluing (market inefficiencies) and they get them for good value. Then those players end up churning out 3 win seasons while getting ~450-500 at bats in rotation with other players who fit the same mold. By acquiring all these low cost players with upside, they are able to spend larger resources on free agents and contract extensions for the guys that they really want to keep long term.

The Patriots have been doing similar things in the NFL. They find the diamonds in the rough for cheap, turn them into top notch NFL players, and as soon as the market catches up they cut them lose by trading them for more value and finding a similar replacement. That is exactly what they did by drafting Jamie Collins and dumping him once he became one of the best linebackers in the league for a year or two. He's still a good player, but now the Browns are stuck overpaying him.
 
2/30m on Morton.

Pretty solid deal there. the Rays have plenty of salary room and this should keep them out of any long term trouble.

Morton ends up going for 15 AAV. Right between the 14m and 16m we talked about last week as acquisition price for 3 WAR guy.

This might make more sense to me than long deal with Keuchel.
 
Enscheff said:
I saw Donaldson coming

http://www.chopcountry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7730

Rather than getting him for 5 years, his recent injury history allowed the Braves to get him for a single year.

I knew Camargo was viewed as a utility guy, and I shouldn’t have let AA’s smokescreen change my opinion.
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Exactly, not the best comparison. I had been screaming it would probably happen since the trade deadline. I didn't know what the contract would be worth but it made too much sense not to happen.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsBraves/status/1072958016247328768
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We could use a bullpen arm but i view another bat as a bigger need.

As backend options we currently have: Sobotka, Minter, Viz, O'Day, Venters, with guys like Winkler, Freeman, Fried, Carle, Biddle, etc.

Certainly not an elite pen by any means but it's alot better than we had when we opened last year and had guys like Jose Ramirez, Moylan and Rex Brothers in the pen as well as Freeman. There's much better options there now. Could obviously use another high leverage arm but im not sure its the biggest need right now. Good listen and i can defintely see Philly sign Kimbrel if they whiff on Machado and Harper.
 
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