2018 Offseason And Targets

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thewupk said:
And his stuff has regressed quite a bit
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Hopefully his offseason training should help that.

Gausman admitted on the broadcast last night that he wasn't trying in Baltimore and that the trade to ATL was a big wake up call for him. Julio had the same issue from the rebuild and I hope last years post season was his wake up call.
 
CrazyTrain said:
lol, father time? He's 28.
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I realize tour ignorance about pitcher aging curves has you thinking MadBum is still an impact pitcher worthy of a 6 year extension, and Julio will post a 4+ win season, but do yourself a favor and learn something. Shouldn't be a challenge for a gifted sales engineer.

Julio's velocity is declining almost exactly in line with typical pitcher aging curve:

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You aren't half as smart as you like to think you are.
 
Just spend the money AA!! Get Craig and you won't have to worry about the closer for the 2-3 years. And you'll earn some love from the fanbase who were mad he was traded away in the 1st place.
 
Carp said:
Just spend the money AA!! Get Craig and you won't have to worry about the closer for the 2-3 years. And you'll earn some love from the fanbase who were mad he was traded away in the 1st place.
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Doesnt 3 years seem to be about perfect? If you give up a high-ish draft pick you don’t want a one year rental. And if you do 3 years it’s not like he can become some albatross on the books for several years
 
Freshmaker said:
Doesnt 3 years seem to be about perfect? If you give up a high-ish draft pick you don’t want a one year rental. And if you do 3 years it’s not like he can become some albatross on the books for several years
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There is plenty of risk giving a 31 year old BP arm 3 years...
 
Freshmaker said:
Doesnt 3 years seem to be about perfect? If you give up a high-ish draft pick you don’t want a one year rental. And if you do 3 years it’s not like he can become some albatross on the books for several years
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I've never understood the "no draft pick for 1 year" argument. A 1 year deal for a 30+ relief pitcher is always the preferable option if it is available to you. Losing a draft pick that is worth less than 5 million in surplus value doesn't change that in my opinion.

If we could get Kimbrel on a 1 year deal, we should do it 100 times out of 100
 
Apparently Swanson went on record to say that he's never hit an oppo homer in his life and hit two the last two days...... maybe he's figuring things out?
 
BeanieAntics said:
I've never understood the "no draft pick for 1 year" argument. A 1 year deal for a 30+ relief pitcher is always the preferable option if it is available to you. Losing a draft pick that is worth less than 5 million in surplus value doesn't change that in my opinion.

If we could get Kimbrel on a 1 year deal, we should do it 100 times out of 100
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Folks who make that argument have no idea how to value draft picks.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Sign Kimbrel now or trade multiple good prospects for a reliever at the trade deadline. AA gets to chose.
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Let’s hope we are close enough in the race to be able to make a move at the deadline.
As horrible as our bench will be with the exception of Johan and with how inconsistent our rotation is bound to be, I’m not confident we will be within striking distance for a chance for it to matter.
I will jump on the bandwagon Thursday and put my Braves colored glasses on but the front office has beaten my trust down with the refusal to spend any extra resources they have made the past year.I understand we are ahead of schedule and I’m not wanting to trade any of our young guys until we see what we have but I don’t have faith that in the next year or two they will ever do what is needed to give us a chance to win a title while we have Acuna under contract.
I hope the young pitchers are ahead of schedule this year and the team proves me wrong.
 
Buzzworm said:
Let’s hope we are close enough in the race to be able to make a move at the deadline.
As horrible as our bench will be with the exception of Johan and with how inconsistent our rotation is bound to be, I’m not confident we will be within striking distance for a chance for it to matter.
I will jump on the bandwagon Thursday and put my Braves colored glasses on but the front office has beaten my trust down with the refusal to spend any extra resources they have made the past year.I understand we are ahead of schedule and I’m not wanting to trade any of our young guys until we see what we have but I don’t have faith that in the next year or two they will ever do what is needed to give us a chance to win a title while we have Acuna under contract.
I hope the young pitchers are ahead of schedule this year and the team proves me wrong.
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The only unforgivable sin this offseason was not acquiring one of the following players: Grandal, McCutchen, Brantley, OFer through trade. If we would have gotten on of those guys or made a trade for an OFer like Peralta or Gallo or somebody like that, I'd have been fine with the offseason. I still am, but I definitely don't love it.

Another thing I think we missed out on big time was not trading for Jurickson Profar when we had the chance. We could have easily beat the A's offer and our bench would have gone from mediocre to one of the best in baseball.
 
BeanieAntics said:
The only unforgivable sin this offseason was not acquiring one of the following players: Grandal, McCutchen, Brantley, OFer through trade. If we would have gotten on of those guys or made a trade for an OFer like Peralta or Gallo or somebody like that, I'd have been fine with the offseason. I still am, but I definitely don't love it.

Another thing I think we missed out on big time was not trading for Jurickson Profar when we had the chance. We could have easily beat the A's offer and our bench would have gone from mediocre to one of the best in baseball.
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I've been beating the OF drum as loudly as anyone, but I just get the feeling that they've seen enough of Camargo out there - even though not so much in game situations - that they're apparently comfortable enough with him to make him that right-handed option (with Acuna sliding to CF when he plays and Ender sits).

It's always crazy to read TOO MUCH into camp happenings, but hearing Seitzer talk about how good he feels about the adjustments Ozzie's making from the left side and seeing Dansby's stronger commitment to going the other way makes it seem as if there could be less chances for Johan to play in the middle than might have been originally thought, meaning he'll have to get the vast majority of his ABs when giving Donaldson a blow or when he plays an OF corner. I'm hoping that it's one of those cases where "just because WE haven't seen him out there much doesn't mean THEY haven't seen it enough to trust him".
 
Okay guys. Since the off-season for all practical purposes is over, I'm going to lock this thread up. I'll start a new thread "Around the Majors 2019" . Feel free to pick up the conversation there.

Thanks everyone. For the most part, good discussion.
 
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