Political Correctness

I had just posted a story from the WAPO about a "Transgender kid winning the Texas girl's state wrestling tourney for 2nd year in a row."

I posted it here, but then actually read the story and found out it was actually a girl who is trying to become a boy. So I deleted the post.

Having said that, the discussion over whether this girl should be allowed to be taking steroids and still competing is a worthy topic, and I of course say the answer is no.
 
sturg33 said:
I had just posted a story from the WAPO about a "Transgender kid winning the Texas girl's state wrestling tourney for 2nd year in a row."

I posted it here, but then actually read the story and found out it was actually a girl who is trying to become a boy. So I deleted the post.

Having said that, the discussion over whether this girl should be allowed to be taking steroids and still competing is a worthy topic, and I of course say the answer is no.
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I would have to agree that taking steroids confers an unfair competitive advantage in this situation. I'm glad I'm not a school board official having to navigate all these issues.
 
I think it’s fair to ask the question, in a vacuum, if a Title IX complaint based solely on that perception would result in action. Fair, maybe, if you acknowledge the rest of the facts in this case and the validity of her complaint. It was her only real recourse after direct requests to the student failed. And, in context, I’m not even sure why her feeling threatened by the disparity in their sizes is even objectionable.

Finally, I think we’d be remiss if we didn’t acknowledge that while you can view some school actions in cases like this as CYA, it’s also true that inaction in cases like this can lead to women getting hurt. I think that’s the dividing line for how people read this story. One person may see it as a potential gateway to an abuse of process. Another may see it as a woman who quite rightfully feared for her safety and took steps to ensure it.
 
nsacpi said:
I would have to agree that taking steroids confers an unfair competitive advantage in this situation. I'm glad I'm not a school board official having to navigate all these issues.
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I agree on both counts. I think there are potentially a lot of issues of this type that have to be navigated that present legitimate difficulty and require good judgement, and I’m glad I’m not on the hook for those decisions. It also underscores the fact that, wholly apart from gender identity issues, biological sex itself is more complicated than some people are willing to accept. There are women, for example, whose bodies naturally produce more testosterone than average (see the case of South African runner Caster Semenya). Aside from the sporting questions, I think there are some societal/cultural questions.
 
Julio3000 said:
I agree on both counts. I think there are potentially a lot of issues of this type that have to be navigated that present legitimate difficulty and require good judgement, and I’m glad I’m not on the hook for those decisions. It also underscores the fact that, wholly apart from gender identity issues, biological sex itself is more complicated than some people are willing to accept. There are women, for example, whose bodies naturally produce more testosterone than average (see the case of South African runner Caster Semenya). Aside from the sporting questions, I think there are some societal/cultural questions.
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A complicating issue is that there are a lot of banned substances in sports that are considered PEDs for which it is also possible to get a medical waiver. I imagine a student who is transitioning might apply for a medical waiver for testosterone. I think in this situation you have to weigh the rights of the other student-athletes that are competing against that student. It is something that has to be evaluated case by case.
 
sturg33 said:
I had just posted a story from the WAPO about a "Transgender kid winning the Texas girl's state wrestling tourney for 2nd year in a row."

I posted it here, but then actually read the story and found out it was actually a girl who is trying to become a boy. So I deleted the post.

Having said that, the discussion over whether this girl should be allowed to be taking steroids and still competing is a worthy topic, and I of course say the answer is no.
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Is she taking anabolic steroids or simply taking testosterone? I would need to know more before making a judgment. I doubt very much that he would have more testosterone in his system than the guys he is competing against. If the testosterone levels are higher, that should be looked at.
 
50PoundHead said:
Is she taking anabolic steroids or simply taking testosterone? I would need to know more before making a judgment. I doubt very much that he would have more testosterone in his system than the guys he is competing against. If the testosterone levels are higher, that should be looked at.
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Let me edit my remarks. I read the article. He is wrestling against girls. He should not be competing against them. Unfortunately, Texas law prevents him from competing in the male division, which he would prefer to do.
 
Looks as if I am the only one that sees significance in (R) House Committes closing investigations of HRC with no indictments and a statement of nothing to see here.

It seemed to be PC to dog HRC for over 2 decades.
What Roger Stone called "the barrel "

Free and clear
 
3-2-1 until some nit-wit on the forum adheres to Politically Correct right wing orthodoxy and refers to the incoming Speaker as Mrs. Pelosi
 
one in a Hijab and the other dressed as a suffragette

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Evan Rosenfeld
‏Verified account @Evan_Rosenfeld
1h1 hour ago

TPM: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer took a few minutes

in his concluding floor remarks Thursday to scold a Republican representative

who shouted “go back to Puerto Rico!”

during Rep. Tony Cardenas’s (D-CA) speech on the shutdown.
 
57Brave said:
Evan Rosenfeld
‏Verified account @Evan_Rosenfeld
1h1 hour ago

TPM: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer took a few minutes

in his concluding floor remarks Thursday to scold a Republican representative

who shouted “go back to Puerto Rico!”

during Rep. Tony Cardenas’s (D-CA) speech on the shutdown.

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what is deceptive?


A (R) Congressman yelled to another Congressman (a Latino Congressman from Cali no less) on the floor of the US House of Representative to " go back to Puerto Rico "


we just weren't in on the joke ?
The ****ing government is shutdown. PR a memeber of the Us was recently treated like a "****hole country" and some yay hoo from dumbphuckistan cracks wise.
Not deceptive at all.


" I was just joking "
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
‏Verified account @AOC
1m1 minute ago

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Retweeted POLITICO

Rep. Smith yelled “Go Back to Puerto Rico” so loudly that 2 mothers

heard the racist remark from the GALLERY and told me about it later in my office.

& @JasonSmithMO: maybe you’re the one who should go to PR

so you can see how the GOP is starving Americans in disaster recovery.
 
sturg33 said:
57Brave said:
Evan Rosenfeld
‏Verified account @Evan_Rosenfeld
1h1 hour ago

TPM: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer took a few minutes

in his concluding floor remarks Thursday to scold a Republican representative

who shouted “go back to Puerto Rico!”

during Rep. Tony Cardenas’s (D-CA) speech on the shutdown.

[Tw]1086064923866746892[/tw]
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FWIW Rep. Smith called Rep. Cardenas to apologize. Whatever his intent, this would seem to support the appearance of one version of this story over the other.
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Julio3000 said:
sturg33 said:
FWIW Rep. Smith called Rep. Cardenas to apologize. Whatever his intent, this would seem to support the appearance of one version of this story over the other.
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Maybe I'm a civility sissy, but I don't want the floor of the United States Congress turning into the British Parliament. People can let it rip when they are talking to the press or making media appearances, but I'm all for strict decorum when on the floor.
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