You're just mad it goes against your narrative that AA blew this offseason.
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You're just mad it goes against your narrative that AA blew this offseason.
tululush
New member
Based on what has been told to the fans and what actions have transpired during this off season I honestly don't believe what's holding us back is reluctance going to third year. I think they just don't want to spend the money. Period. We're being run by a cheap owner and it's trickling down. It's just another excuse as to why we won't sign him. And part of the reason why I'm so angry with AA is he just continues the lie passed down from ownership. Everyone from ownership down to GM needs to just tell us the truth. We're done spending. We want to use the extra money to pay down debt. I don't agree with it, but at least it's honesty. Don't compound the problem by lying to our fans and thinking we're a bunch of idiots who will believe the rhetoric.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Yes, I'm asking you to put aside the scenario where cutting Duvall is the difference between signing or not signing Kimbrell or anyone else before the season.
Does it really make sense to cut him?
tululush
New member
It does if we don't have the financial flexibility bc our owners are taking the surplus money and revenue generated to pay down debt instead of bettering our team. And all of this after we were told we have money to spend...ok, spend it.
Southcack77
Well-known member
It's this stuff that is the unnecessary product of being overly close to the vest and non-communicative.
Granted, this stuff happens when you're very open too. People are drama queens.
It's entirely possible they have a limited budget and don't think that adding a closer at 18m for 3 years? is a particularly good investment for the team's limited dollars.
If they'd been willing to make that kind of commitment, they'd maybe have done it for an OF?
Southcack77
Well-known member
I don't think we have much indication at all that saving 2 million dollars would made a particularly big impact on the team's debt load or ability to compete.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I will always say he blew this offseason. ESPN won’t change that.
Just glad we have another publication that disagrees with you
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I thought it would. Take his money and pay someone else to play the role but at this point in the year. No it doesn’t. It is too late to make moves that will make much difference. Not without spending significant dollars. Other insurance policies could have been made if he would have seen this as a possible outcome. But now I don’t think there is much out there to protect us against injury.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I will always feel good when espn disagrees with me. What was the other publication that disagreed with me?
Hudson2
Well-known member
I’m gonna agree. A 3rd year isn’t that big of a deal imo but a 4th would be. The pick and bonus pool money is the big sticking point imo. But if we could get CK for 3/45 with an option for a 4th year I’d give up the pick.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Agreed. We have not been interested in anyone that would require us forfeiting the pick (more importantly the pool money). So I don’t see that happening now. This is the year our guys sink or swim. There is no life ring coming from above.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
Wasn't we picked last, last year?
Do it again what we did last year and our young pitchers get smarter and better.
Smoltz, Glavine and others struggled but they got good, better and the best through competition.
Lets look at it that way and quit being this generation of we want results now fandom.
Do it again what we did last year and our young pitchers get smarter and better.
Smoltz, Glavine and others struggled but they got good, better and the best through competition.
Lets look at it that way and quit being this generation of we want results now fandom.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
I am sorry but we have changed over a few decades.
I am tired of admin a board of people who want he coach fired after a few games and why we aren't winning when he has four scholarship players coming back.
It drives me up the freaking wall. I don't ban, my mods do it, I don't have the stomach for it but I talk to them and say they might get it, not from me.
People, we can be really good, mediocre, or bad, but if the pitching is bad and they are 20, 21 or 22 years old, just remember the 90's, it was a great time. They are learning to be big boys and these boys are on par with Smoltz in pitching but they need to learn like him.
I am tired of admin a board of people who want he coach fired after a few games and why we aren't winning when he has four scholarship players coming back.
It drives me up the freaking wall. I don't ban, my mods do it, I don't have the stomach for it but I talk to them and say they might get it, not from me.
People, we can be really good, mediocre, or bad, but if the pitching is bad and they are 20, 21 or 22 years old, just remember the 90's, it was a great time. They are learning to be big boys and these boys are on par with Smoltz in pitching but they need to learn like him.
The Braves are probably limited to short deals because they can’t take on much more overall debt while still adhering to MLBs debt servicing rules. If the plan is to take on even more debt to expand around the ballpark even more, they aren’t in a position to add $50M in total debt for Kimbrel.
If they are limited to 1 year deals, then yes, a few million here and there makes a pretty big difference.
Nobody has ever said anything even remotely close to this.
Claiming something isn’t sustainable is not the same as claiming it doesn’t count. This is easily the most common moronic statement made by anti-stats folks.
All of the HRs Albies hit certainly count, even though I was constantly pointing out how unsustainable they were.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I think the team will do well. I think the FO could have done more as a contingency plan. We have a thinner margin for injury and regression than other clubs because of this.