The Trump Presidency

thethe said:
Unfortunate that in your world there is a 'correct' and therefore only acceptable response to anything.

Youve been accused of wrongthink
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The only correct response to bigotry is condemnation. That's not just my world. Pretty sure most ethical people feel the same way.
 
thethe said:
Rapists should be shot

Murderers should be shot

Drug smugglers that are killing tens of thousands of americans should be shot

So sure...go with your approach. Whatever it takes to get votes.
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you would have fit in early 80's Iran
or Sadaam's Iraq.
All you would have to do is change your headgear.
We dont shoot people --- even death by firing squad has been banned for a number of years


What country do you want to live in ?
That is a serious question
 
Carp said:
The only correct response to bigotry is condemnation. That's not just my world. Pretty sure most ethical people feel the same way.
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Or you can get of your moral highorse and understand people are flawed and therefore condemnation is not always a constructive response. But hey, keep believing youre always on the moral highground.
 
Moral high horse or not

I think you are the first person in all my years coming to these boards advocating shooting people for crossing the border

And dont give me that nonsense.
You know damn sure well drug cartels dont carry drugs on foot across the border
even if they did !!!!
 
57Brave said:
Moral high horse or not

I think you are the first person in all my years coming to these boards advocating shooting people for crossing the border

And dont give me that nonsense.
You know damn sure well drug cartels dont carry drugs on foot across the border
even if they did !!!!
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You guys are idiots for taking him out of context. You know what he said and what he meant.
 
Krgrecw said:
You guys are idiots for taking him out of context. You know what he said and what he meant.
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Trump knows the crowd he's in front of.

He knows which red meat to throw out there for the audience to get the provoked responses he gets.

It's a huge stretch to say Trump or thethe are being taken out of context.
 
thethe said:
Or you can get of your moral highorse and understand people are flawed and therefore condemnation is not always a constructive response. But hey, keep believing youre always on the moral highground.
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The sentiment can and should be condemned, unequivocally. It’s not condemning the person.

PS, extrajudicial killing is, uh, not something that is really compatible with the values that we aspire to.
 
thethe said:
Or you can get of your moral highorse and understand people are flawed and therefore condemnation is not always a constructive response. But hey, keep believing youre always on the moral highground.
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When it comes to things like racism, yes it is. Otherwise, you only encourage such behavior to continue.
 
These same people said Obama not kissing police officers ass enough was inciting violence against police.




Wasnt there a Trump tard arrested recently for encouraging people to go Hitler on immigrants?
 
thethe said:
Rapists should be shot

Murderers should be shot

Drug smugglers that are killing tens of thousands of americans should be shot

So sure...go with your approach. Whatever it takes to get votes.
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With the rate of false convictions in this country that can never be our policy. We need a real justice system before we can do anything like that, what we have now is just a meat grinder.



What drug smugglers are killijg tens of thousands of people? If you want to reduce drug related deatgs you should target the legal drugs like alcohol, tobacco, and the massive pill problem. If you are interested in real solitions to ending overdose deaths then we shoud legalize because most overdoses are caused by inconsistent product which would not happen in a legal regulated market. Some cities also have started injection sites where addicts can do their drugs under medical supervision. I bet like most Republicans you would eather they overdose and die in the streets so it can be used for propoganda purposes.
 
Krgrecw said:
You guys are idiots for taking him out of context. You know what he said and what he meant.
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I didn't take anything out of context. The problem with thethe's statement is that it supports the original racist statement, even if only indirectly.

If someone said "Black people are lazy", your response should not be to support that statement in any way, shape, or form. Even if it is true that some black people are lazy (there are lazy people in every race) saying it in response to that statement is essentially agreeing with it, or at the very least showing indifference to such a racist comment.
 
Carp said:
I didn't take anything out of context. The problem with thethe's statement is that it supports the original racist statement, even if only indirectly.

If someone said "Black people are lazy", your response should not be to support that statement in any way, shape, or form. Even if it is true that some black people are lazy (there are lazy people in every race) saying it in response to that statement is essentially agreeing with it, or at the very least showing indifference to such a racist comment.
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ditto if some Muslims engage in terrorism and using that to tar an entire religious community...which thethe does all the time ....trump too with his "Islam hates us"

and then there is this theme of Soros funding ISIS seeded caravans on their way to invade us...pushed by among others people currently holding seats in the House of Representatives

very sad

not expecting it to happen but wondering if thethe will retract his smears against Soros
 
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thethe said:
In your world my statement supports racism.

Gotcha
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Inditectly, absolutely it does. You supported that persons racist idealogy, even if only in part. Quasi supporting a racist idealogy is still supporting a racist, even if your idealogy isn't exactly the same.
 
Carp said:
Inditectly, absolutely it does. You supported that persons racist idealogy, even if only in part. Quasi supporting a racist idealogy is still supporting a racist, even if your idealogy isn't exactly the same.
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Presenting a factual statement such as cartel memebrs deserve to be shot does not support racism. The fact that you think it does speaks to what kind of thought police you envision in the future
 
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