The Trump Presidency

sturg33 said:
Catching up.

Trying to figure out if Trump is a disaster because of a war with Iran... or if he is a disaster because he called off a war with Iran.
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He's a disaster because he's a liar and makes all his decisions based on what's going to keep him in the news 24/7. He's a rogue president unconnected to anything except his own personal drama. This was all about making it look like he is in control and making the big decisions. I don't think he was ever going to bomb Iran just like he was never going to attack NK.

He's really a master at this deception and I don't see any evidence that the govt, those around him or the media can do anything to stop him.
 
The economy will crash.

He colluded with the russians.

He will take us to a nuclear war.

Damn, i hope you all realize how much you got wrong.
 
50PoundHead said:
I've always thought that decision was largely predicated on the preference of Netanyahu and little else. I guess I say that at risk of being branded an anti-Semite, but what the JCPOA did more than anything else (in my eyes) was limit Israel's ability to act unilaterally against Iran. It still may be difficult for the Israelis if they were to go that route, but if they did, the United States would be in a position of neutrality (more or less).

But Bolton and Pompeo are a couple of complete and total knuckleheads, especially Bolton. All I can say that is remotely positive about Bolton is that at least he had the cojones to join the National Guard and not take the drummed-up deferment route that W's brood of chickenhawks (and our very bold current denizen of the Oval Office) did.
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I agree, with the minor caveat that it was a sop to the Gulf States as well as Bibi.
 
thethe said:
How is it possible to defend anything about Iran and the JCPOA when it was revealed they essentially skirted around the overarching purpose of the agreement? How about their export of terror across the middle east and use of proxys to launch rockets into israel.

Trump is right to not engage and its funny the talk was about him starting a nuclear war.

But this is not caused by any action of the US. This is all a result of Iran acting like a state sponsored terrorist organization and anything otherwise is well an example of trump adjacent hatred.
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You seem to be of the opinion that war with Iran, or open conflict involving Iran, is bad. So, post-JCPOA, are we closer to or further from that outcome?
 
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He really wants to be a dictator

And more silence from republicans
 
Julio3000 said:
You seem to be of the opinion that war with Iran, or open conflict involving Iran, is bad. So, post-JCPOA, are we closer to or further from that outcome?
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There will be no war with iran unless we choose to go to war with them.

I would argue that thr JCPOA was irrelevant and was merely a fake symbol of an accomplishment. Irans principal 'badness' is the export of terror through their proxies and that only escalated the last 10 years.
 
goldfly said:
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He really wants to be a dictator

And more silence from republicans
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The thing you loons dont realize is that he is putposely trying to set you off.

Also, it could mean his family. Considering our last 4 presidents were epic disasters that let china do anything they wanted ill take another 20 years of trumpism.
 
what specific China policy(ies, because no policy stands on its own) has turned China into an administration chest pound ?
In a little over 2 years
 
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57Brave said:
what specific China policy(ies, because no policy stands on its own) has turned China into an administration chest pound ?
In a little over 2 years
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Go track chinas economic performance the past few months and how the globe is now turning on compabies like huawei.

As long as we are strong and keep these tariffs and international pressure china will crumble to its knees and be forced to changd its ways.
 
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Cant wait to see how the left will react when this man becomes president.
 
thethe said:
Go track chinas economic performance the past few months and how the globe is now turning on compabies like huawei.

As long as we are strong and keep these tariffs and international pressure china will crumble to its knees and be forced to changd its ways.
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oh, the tariffs,
forgot about them
you apparently dont know boxing

Chinese societal success or failure is not measured in months
 
thethe said:
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BYE!!!!
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and we know this because the guy that invented the Iranian War of 2019, then unilaterally bartered the peace over casualties told you so ?
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The scariest thing about the "Iranian War" is it inst off the radar that he messes up sending planes and ten forgets he did it.
We have no Sec of Defense as designated civilian buffer just in case--- the highest ranking civilian official in the MIC is, ... you guessed it
the guy with the best brain,hires the best people, knows better than the generals
 
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