Impeachment

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This is like freaking groundhog day. Just like the Russia Collusion hoax the left tried to be as loud as possible to cover up their illegalities and corruption. Same with Ukraine.

It will all come out and there will be a political reckoning to come.
 
Kind of strange how the messaging from the left is now the whistleblower doesn't matter.

Sounds like how Mifsud didn't matter once it was discovered who he was and his affiliations. Also, how the Dossier became less important when it was found to be Russian disinformation.

The parallels are amusing.
 
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cajunrevenge said:
How do you define better. The country had never been more polarized and we have an outright criminal thug in the White House shutting all over the everything this country is supposed to be. During Trumps time the economy went from good to great. During Obama's years the economy went from a dumpster fire to very good. I would say the Clinton years were better all around, especially during the dotcom bubble. Obama started the longest period of economic expansion we have ever seen. He did the hard part, Trump is just piggybacking and taking all the credit. This wont continue for another 5 years. So if he gets reelected we most likely will end his Presidency in a very bad position. Best case scenario for him is to lose so whoever takes over after him gets the blame for his incompetence.
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I'm asking about quality of life in the world, basically.

The left acts like we live in the worst of times, when in reality, life expectancy is all time highs. Income is at all time highs. Employment is at all time highs. Travel has never been cheaper. Food has never been cheaper.

Americans complain about ****ing everything.

"We will get communism when capitalism fails us"

1. How is it failing us?

2. Does runnin actually believe the corporate welfare and federal reserve system is capitalism? If anything is failing us, its government intervention into markets (medical and education costs come to mind)

That's what always frustrates me... leftist impose anti-market policies and when they predictably fail, blame capitalism and demand more government intervention to fix it.
 
The whistleblower doesn't matter because there are now more reliable and credible witnesses in the flesh.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm asking about quality of life in the world, basically.

The left acts like we live in the worst of times, when in reality, life expectancy is all time highs. Income is at all time highs. Employment is at all time highs. Travel has never been cheaper. Food has never been cheaper.

Americans complain about ****ing everything.

"We will get communism when capitalism fails us"

1. How is it failing us?

2. Does runnin actually believe the corporate welfare and federal reserve system is capitalism? If anything is failing us, its government intervention into markets (medical and education costs come to mind)

That's what always frustrates me... leftist impose anti-market policies and when they predictably fail, blame capitalism and demand more government intervention to fix it.
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Except the wealth tax. That **** is so bad they have no choice but to remove it when it fails.
 
Runnin said:
Tyranny to pull the country out of depression and to build infrastructure and a middle class? My idea is a little different. It's when a leader throws the laws out the window and says he alone will decide what is just and necessary. When that leader turns his back on his country and seeks only what is good for him.

The choice is very clear. We will see what kind of "tyranny" the American people want.
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Tyranny to ****ing lock up innocent americans based on their race

That's exactly my point, you are crying about tyranny while.defending the legacy of the anti-semitic tyrant who locked up people based on nothing but their race.
 
thethe said:
Kind of strange how the messaging from the left is now the whistleblower doesn't matter.

Sounds like how Mifsud didn't matter once it was discovered who he was and his affiliations. Also, how the Dossier became less important when it was found to be Russian disinformation.

The parallels are amusing.
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The only reason Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is is so they can make up another insane conspiracy theory for people like you. Can you explain to me why if this whistleblower had a connection to Buden or Hillary is an issue but Googliani who is literally Trumps personal lawyer can be involved in an investigation of Buden without it being an issue? You cant have it both ways.



Again, it does not matter if the WB hates Trump. His reported concerns were accurate and almost a dozen witnesses have confirmed that.



One last thing. Why are these investigations of Trump hoaxes but the ones into Hillary not hoaxes? She has never been indicted for anything and has been investigated more than anyone.
 
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2020 is coming fast.. Get your tear buckets ahead of time.. Otherwise stores are going to run out and you'll salt your lawn.
 
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Rand needs a booster shot of principles.

Hopefully he can set aside his qualms about vaccines and get one.
 
Again, it could be Barack Obama in a fake moustache and it doesnt matter. Bias does not change the fact that his account has been confirmed by multiple witnesses.




Why does bias matter to you when people investigate Trump but you dont care that about the role biased people play in investigating Democrats?
 
A critical witness in the impeachment inquiry offered Congress substantial new testimony this week, revealing that he told a top Ukrainian official that the country likely would not receive American military aid unless it publicly committed to investigations President Trump wanted.

The disclosure from Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, in four new pages of sworn testimony released on Tuesday, confirmed his involvement in essentially laying out a quid pro quo to Ukraine that he had previously not acknowledged.

The testimony offered several major new details beyond the account he gave the inquiry in a 10-hour interview last month. Mr. Sondland provided a more robust description of his own role in alerting the Ukrainians that they needed to go along with investigative requests being demanded by the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani. By early September, Mr. Sondland said, he had become convinced that military aid and a White House meeting were conditioned on Ukraine committing to those investigations.

Mr. Sondland had said in a text message exchange in early September with William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, that the president had been clear there was no quid pro quo between the aid and investigations of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., his son and other Democrats. But Mr. Sondland testified last month that he was only repeating what Mr. Trump had told him, leaving open the question of whether he believed the president. The new account suggested that Mr. Sondland may have not been completely forthcoming with Mr. Taylor, and that he was, in fact, aware that the aid was contingent upon the investigations.

In the addendum, Mr. Sondland said he had “refreshed my recollection” after reading the testimony given by Mr. Taylor and Timothy Morrison, the senior director for Europe and Russia at the National Security Council.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html

glad to see Morrison helped Sondland break on through to the other side
 
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I can only imagine the ****storm that would come from the right if he does tell the full truth. I think it's clear by now testifying against the President is an act of war to the right. Truth be damned.
 
Volker testified that Biden's request to have the prosecutor in Ukraine dismissed was in line with US policy. Not that we didnt know this but some people are refusing to hear it.
 
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