The Wall
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Al-Shabaab is not a government.
It's a terrible situation no doubt but it's not asylum eligible.
It is an indisputable fact that the majority of claims are complete bull**** and just the raw numbers should indicate to a reasonable person that there is a consolidated message being taught to migrants.
Where is that messaging coming from? Who is funding that type of operation? And finally, why are they doing it?
Metaphysicist
Not Actually Brian Hunter
Your first point is just wrong. Al-Shabaab is a participant in the Somali civil war and has been, a la ISIS elsewhere, the de facto governmental entity in parts of Somalia. This was not even a point of contention in the hearing I attended. The issue was about how his claim was classified.
Regardless, the larger point is that this guy is one of the alleged 70% failed applications you are decrying as "bull****." The claim is very real, but it is just not fitting into some technical category (and also being appealed, so who knows how it gets resolved).
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
We have lost our way as a country
Maybe if they didn't come from a ****hole country they'd get asylum.
Or if they weren't economic migrants coached by far left groups meaning to destroy america.
I'm sure that's what it is. It can't be that people actually need asylum.
When such a large percentage of people who claim asylum are being rejected? Come on man...put aside the political bias and see what's happening.
These poor people are coached into thinking the dangerous trip is worth it.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I mean I would say don't ever change. But I know you won't because one doesn't drink this much of the Kool Aid and isn't suffering permanent effects.
And it couldn't possibly be at the direction of the current administration....
This has nothing to do with people cheating the system and everything to do with the ridiculous and morally bankrupt policies of the Trump Administration. It's just like the same myth that the majority of people on welfare or other federally funded programms are cheating the system and spending their money on drugs. Are there instances of this? Sure. But they are isolated and don't represent the majority of the people.
A tremendous amount was being rejected by Obama and then the 'Caravans' started.
I wonder...just wonder how such a large group of people could be organized and all simultaneously claim asylum.
Hmm.....
This simply isn't true, at least in regards to comparing them to Obama. Trump lowered the amount of admissions to historic lows.
Because it's clear to anyone these are economic migrants.
Do you think caravans manifested without any organized infrastructure?
The caravans increase the total amount of people seeking asylum. That has nothing to do with amount of admissions approved, only the percentages.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
You are outright crazy
Where can one get a job describing everything the left does of coaching people, paid protesters etc etc etc
I do this **** for free and would rather get paid to have to be against the idiots like you and get paid to travel while doing it
It impacts everything because they are organized and instructed to request asylum even though that's not their true reason.
For one, this is more rhetoric that can't be substantiated.
Secondly, again this only affects the total number of asylum requests. Trump's administration has reduced the cap for asylum seekers to the lowest they've ever been, which again. It's just another example of just how morally bankrupt this administration is.
Or how it has wisened up to the scheme.
