Official Offseason Thread

[mqt]

I briefly forgot Pache and Contreras are on the 40 man and became very concerned.

 

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

I just remembered the Dodgers were going to try playing d'Arnaud at 3B on occasion but then they flipped him in a trade to the Rays after he was a member of the team for only five days. Something to keep an eye on.

 

[drewdat]

Paving the way for Freddie at C? I like it.

 

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

That feel when the Braves exhibition opener against the Orioles is only just over a month away.

 

[Freshmaker]

We have a stacked bullpen and an overflow of outfielders....But i'd think we'd have to do better on the deal there...

Cubs get: Inciarte, Greene, Riley, Wright
Braves get: Bryant and maybe a comp pick

Inciarte plus Greene would be more money than Bryant makes next season and Bryant is a legit cleanup hitter with power. Inciarte is a gold glove CF but light with the bat. Greene coming off a great year with Detroit.

Acuna CF
Albies 2B
Freeman 1B
Bryant 3B
Ozuna LF
d'Arnaud C
Markakis/Duvall RF
Swanson SS

Culberson, Camargo, Duvall/Markakis, Flowers, Hech

Soroka, Hamels, Freid, Folty, Hernandez/Touki/Newk

Smith, Melancon, Martin, Jackson, O'day, Newk, Webb, Minter


That would be a hell of a team

I like the idea, but would't the Cubs want to shed salary?

 

[Snowman]

Paving the way for Freddie at C? I like it.

He already has catcher speed, and just imagine the WAR you get from a C who wRC+s over 140 and plays all 162 games!

 

[Southcack77]

Pshaw, they're only top 25 in our system, though. Get back to us when that draft produced five of the top 25 prospects in all of baseball.

All considered relievers or backups. Our minor league system is now shallow so being top 25 isn't particularly impressive.

 

[Carp]

All considered relievers or backups. Our minor league system is now shallow so being top 25 isn't particularly impressive.

For one, that isn't true. Vodnik has clear potential as a starter. As for the other guys, it's way too soon to label them likely bench options. All have a good bit of potential but are a good ways away from the majors at this time.

Also, our system isn't really shallow. We have 40 grade prospects as far down as number 17, which is pretty dang good. We still have a top 5 farm system when after graduating Riley, Soroka, and Fried and away 4-5 good depth prospects at the deadline. Just because some of these guys aren't big time prospects yet doesn't mean they aren't talented. Let's remember that Riley and Wilson were 40 grade prospects in 2017.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

He already has catcher speed, and just imagine the WAR you get from a C who wRC+s over 140 and plays all 162 games!

How's his framing?

 

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

Watching Acuña and Ozuna both Euro-Step around third base against Jack Flaherty in the same game is going to be Epic!

 

[Super]

man i really really don't understand why Holt isn't a Brave. would 1/$5M get it done right now? he seems like a perfect guy to match with Camargo. 40 man crunch maybe?

 

[zbhargrove]

man i really really don't understand why Holt isn't a Brave. would 1/$5M get it done right now? he seems like a perfect guy to match with Camargo. 40 man crunch maybe?

I would imagine they are waiting to see if they are going to be able to upgrade 3rd more substantially first with someone like Bryant

 

[weso1]

How's his framing?

Let's just say his new nickname will be Freddie Frameman.

 

[Super]

I would imagine they are waiting to see if they are going to be able to upgrade 3rd more substantially first with someone like Bryant

is payroll going to go up to over $170M? i think there's no way at this point they trade for him at this time.
Camargo can't be starting at 3B by himself.

 

[Jay212033]

is payroll going to go up to over $170M? i think there's no way at this point they trade for him at this time.
Camargo can't be starting at 3B by himself.

If they trade both Inciarte and Greene that would cover what Bryant makes this season.

 

[Super]

If they trade both Inciarte and Greene that would cover what Bryant makes this season.

this would mean playing the Duvall/Markakis platoon in one of the outfield spots. no thanks, and i don't see AA doing that. i could be wrong.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

If they trade both Inciarte and Greene that would cover what Bryant makes this season.

I seriously doubt the cubs want to take on our salary for marginal players. A Bryant trade needs to clear them of all his salary and to get an impact player in return. Not some poo poo platter of marginal players.

I think figuring out how to make the 40 man work for holt is a much more reasonable explanation.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

this would mean playing the Duvall/Markakis platoon in one of the outfield spots. no thanks, and i don't see AA doing that. i could be wrong.

Agreed. I don’t see AA doing this. I could see him moving Greene from something light just to clear his Salary and open a spot on the 40

 

[zbhargrove]

is payroll going to go up to over $170M? i think there's no way at this point they trade for him at this time.
Camargo can't be starting at 3B by himself.

Of course not. If Bryant is acquired I fully believe some combination of Greene/MM/Inciarte/Duvall will be dealt to make room.

 

[Southcack77]

this would mean playing the Duvall/Markakis platoon in one of the outfield spots. no thanks, and i don't see AA doing that. i could be wrong.

Putting aside the prospect cost and the likelihood of such a deal, I'd be happy to trade Inciarte's production for Bryant's production.

Another way of saying, we already have a shaky OF platoon. We also have a far below average 3B situation.

Bryant upgrades 3B to at least well above average. The platoon probably doesn't suffer all that much without Inciarte.

In that situation, I'd probably go sign Billy Hamilton to be a defensive sub while I waited for Pache.