CBO: Top 40% paid 106% of income taxes...

50PoundHead said:
Are you keeping the same set of deductions/credits in your proposal? It may be counter-intuitive to some, but the framework of credits and deductions currently in place favor the middle and upper-middle classes. Where the rich make out like bandits is on the capital gains side of the equation, where capital gains are given a healthy preference over ordinary income. It's not quite that simple, but those at the higher end of the income scale are the ones reaping the largest capital gains both in real terms and relative to income.
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I know as much about what you just talked about as I do about heart surgery, Nothing! Which is why I usually stay out of discussions about taxes, money, etc:Sad:
 
sturg33 said:
Taxation isn't "punishment."

What would you describe it as, a reward?
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You heard it here first, folks: Everything in life is either a reward or punishment.

Sand? Reward.
Vowels? Punishment.
The TV show version of Goosebumps? Punishment.
Transfinite numbers? mm.... Reward?
 
sturg33 said:
I think MLB should force the Angels to trade us Mike Trout for BJ Upton, because they can afford it and we need the financial help.
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Why would you need to invent a lunatic baseball analogy? There is literally already a baseball tax on the rich that is funneled directly to poor teams.

What you are saying is the Yankees are the biggest victims in MLB. Do you feel dirty? I feel dirty just having written those words...
 
sturg33 said:
Funny you should say that... Because nobody can really explain it... And the answer is always "I'm not going to waste my time."

LOL
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No, I'm not going to waste my time, because last time I tried to have a rational conversation with you in one these threads you said "I'll be right back" and then you just ran away. So, it truly is pointless to bother with you. But only you, specifically.
 
Metaphysicist said:
You heard it here first, folks: Everything in life is either a reward or punishment.

Sand? Reward.
Vowels? Punishment.
The TV show version of Goosebumps? Punishment.
Transfinite numbers? mm.... Reward?
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In your usual attempts to be clever, you obviously miss the boat once more. I didn't say it's either or, I asked him what he would describe it as? So far, I haven't gotten an answer. I asked him if he sends more than he is required, I haven't gotten an answer.
 
Metaphysicist said:
No, I'm not going to waste my time, because last time I tried to have a rational conversation with you in one these threads you "said I'll be right back" and then you just ran away. So, it truly is pointless to bother with you. But only you, specifically.
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If you're referring to the Rand Paul thread, I believe I was the last response in that one... You had disappeared for a while
 
Metaphysicist said:
Why would you need to invent a lunatic baseball analogy? There is literally already a baseball tax on the rich that is funneled directly to poor teams.

What you are saying is the Yankees are the biggest victims in MLB. Do you feel dirty? I feel dirty just having written those words...
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Of course not. The Yankees pay a luxury tax. They CHOOSE to SPEND more money. It's the equivalent of a sales tax to us. Nice try
 
sturg33 said:
If you're referring to the Rand Paul thread, I believe I was the last response in that one... You had disappeared for a while
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Yeah, I'm referring now to the thread you actively ignored for three weeks. I see now you did come back after I'd said "**** it" and posted an answer that contained absolutely no content whatsoever while ignoring my points. Sure was worth the wait. DEFINITELY makes me want to have more adult conversations with you.
 
Metaphysicist said:
Yeah, I'm referring now to the thread you actively ignored for three weeks. I see now you did come back after I'd said "**** it" and post an answer that contained absolutely no content whatsoever while ignore my points. Sure was worth the wait.
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Sorry that my life doesn't revolve around "getting back to Meta"

But since you're unable and/or unwilling to explain why taxing one group of people more than a different group of people is somehow NOT discriminatory, I guess I'll go on with my life assuming I am correct.
 
Metaphysicist said:
sick burn brah

Yeah, I don't think anything anyone says in this thread could possible change that one.
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That's not true. I started a thread saying "taxes are theft"... But some folks made a good argument saying that since we choose to work here, we are choosing to pay the taxes. So I backed off my original stance just a bit.
 
So since Meta is out now...

Can someone tell me that % of their income the rich should be paying? Like, an actual number?
 
gtcway said:
I know as much about what you just talked about as I do about heart surgery, Nothing! Which is why I usually stay out of discussions about taxes, money, etc:Sad:
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Your initial thoughts are valid though. I did my grad work in the 1980s on flat-tax/limited marginal rate frameworks and there's a lot of support for going to a structure like that. The credit/deduction/zero-bracket part of the discussion is where the gummy worms melt and things get sticky.
 
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