Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

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thethe said:
Eventually Obama will be questioned. This is the single most corrupt event in our nations history and it's not even close.
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You're a fool beyond help. Even if things happened as you said, it's far from the most corrupt event in our nations history and that lets me know how much your teachers failed you and your personal research never amounted to anything.
 
zitothebrave said:
You're a fool beyond help. Even if things happened as you said, it's far from the most corrupt event in our nations history and that lets me know how much your teachers failed you and your personal research never amounted to anything.
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Please give me an example worse where a president used the full force of the federal government to spy on an opposition candidate.

That's straight up totalitarianism.
 
"full force of government to spy on an opposition candidate." lol.

One valid FISA warrant to check on a schlub you claim is barely related to the campaign. And the IC said the warrant was justified. Hyperbole is truly dead.
 
Metaphysicist said:
"full force of government to spy on an opposition candidate." lol.

One valid FISA warrant to check on a schlub you claim is barely related to the campaign. And the IC said the warrant was justified. Hyperbole is truly dead.
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Wait till Durham is done. All we 'know' is what the FBI did. The real fun will be the CIA.
 
thethe said:
Please give me an example worse where a president used the full force of the federal government to spy on an opposition candidate.

That's straight up totalitarianism.
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Again, even if they did that. It's not the worst example of corruption.

TeaPot Dome Scandal for one. Watergate for two. Iran-Contra for three. Cherokee removal under Jackson for four. I could go on. Basically politics have been corrupt since the dawn of time

But we know Obama didn't tell the FBI to spy on Trump, because that doesn't pass a basic sniff test. Counter to the basic sniff test that says russia wanted Trump elected. Literally every time something horrible came out about Trump more Hillary emails leaked that day. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out. And there were people in the Trump campaign involved. I don't think Donald was one, but I wouldn't be shocked if Kushner or Don Jr was.

What's funny is you're harping on it being a witch hunt but you've turned it into a witch hunt to prove Trump's innocence and that hasn't happened.
 
Wow...you still dont grasp what took place. Still somehow in denial.

This was the biggest power grab in our countries history. Totalitarian states are started with moves like this.
 
thethe said:
Wow...you still dont grasp what took place. Still somehow in denial.

This was the biggest power grab in our countries history. Totalitarian states are started with moves like this.
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You're delusional. If this was a power grab they wouldn't have missed.

I can spin conspiracy theories too. Trump administration created the Coronavirus with the Chinese, the reason China hasn't been hit hard is because they were supposed to just be the fall guy and their economy would get to recover the quickest. Trump uses emergency powers granted in pandemic to seize control of the government by postponing the election indefinitely.

Look at me spinning conspiracy theories that have no basis other than it being made up in someone's head.
 
The conspiracy theory was the idea that there was this grand collusion between Trump and Russia.

Yall pushed it though. Hell, still do
 
How is the coup that was attempted a conspiracy theory anymore? Are you smoking crack and didnt read what the FBI did?
 
sturg33 said:
The conspiracy theory was the idea that there was this grand collusion between Trump and Russia.

Yall pushed it though. Hell, still do
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No, the conspiracy theory is what thethe is toting. Members of Trump's cabinet and campaign were guilty of colluding with Russia. The previously mentioned Flynn, the pro-Russia/Ukraine Manafort, so on so forth. I don't think Donny Boy was because I don't think anyone with any amount of power would let him do anything because he wouldn't be able to keep quiet about it.
 
zitothebrave said:
No, the conspiracy theory is what thethe is toting. Members of Trump's cabinet and campaign were guilty of colluding with Russia. The previously mentioned Flynn, the pro-Russia/Ukraine Manafort, so on so forth. I don't think Donny Boy was because I don't think anyone with any amount of power would let him do anything because he wouldn't be able to keep quiet about it.
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I'm glad we still have one sucker.
 
Really lost any standing when Trump publicly asked Russia to do something that would help his campaign. Theres a ton of circumstantial evidence and we never really to the bottom of whether there was direct collusion. Until we know why Manafort was sharing internal polling data with a Russian agent we may never know. I do know that the consensus around here before the Mueller report dropped was that they would not find direct collusion. Which was entirely based off the reporting we have seen in the media. Our mistake was thinking they were going t be looking at the financial trail to Russians.
 
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