The Coronavirus, not the beer

The Chosen One said:
Well, you're talking about a state that relies on car travel to get to and fro. It's not like NYC which has the highest volume rail system in the country by far.

Virus transmission is obviously easier on the trains. It would eventually have spread and gotten worse in a big rural state like ND or SD.
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It would not have spread because of the way the function behaves.

In a smaller commuting environment taking out 5% of the population as immune DRAMATICALLY changes the spread rate. DRAMATICALLY.

It would NEVER have gotten to these levels.

LOOK AT SWEDEN!
 
The Chosen One said:
While coming back home to the states a year ago from Greece, I had a 15 hour layover in Moscow. The airport was like 90% Chinese nationals going back home or going to the West.

He banned travel from China. I took a direct flight from Moscow to JFK (with a lot of Ruskis and Chinese nationals aboard). That's just one degree of separation from China.

The virus could have spread here from the eastside (which we now know is true, and that travel from Europe is what's responsible for the northeastern spread). Trump has been bragging about hitting a homer in the first inning, while going 0-3 in his next three at-bats.
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More like he thought he hit a homer, but the ball hit the top of the wall and he didn't run out of the box, so he was held to a single.

That's what happens when you don't screen everyone else that's coming back from the exact same area you put a travel ban on.
 
thethe said:
Its harmless to anyone that doesn't have a pre-existing condition that has been defined repeatedly.

Those are the absolute facts and cannot be dismissed.

And what was the result of those 300?
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You realize that's irrelevant right? If lockdowns weren't in place, those 300 hundred people would turn out to be literally thousands of cases as they pass it on to their families and friends who in turn pass it on to others. Want to guess one of the most popular jobs in South Dakota? Truck drivers, that travel all over the country. 1 truck driver could spread cases in more than 10 states in less than a week.
 
Metaphysicist said:
The point that the articles you link never say what you claim? Yes, I agree that is inexplicable.
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Lets ignore that there was a non-immaterial delta in non-flu flu-like symptoms in January/February. We can also ignore the article I referenced a couple of days back where it was admitted that there were large amounts of people who were coming to the doctor with flu like symptoms but tested negative for the flu. I raised this point weeks ago and you laughed but of course I don't expect you to be intellectually honest and say I was right. So lets ignore all that mmmkay?

A huge spike in early March non-flu influenza like symptoms means that the spread reached a high level at that time which would further indicate the virus was spreading for many months prior.

There is some weird mental block in your head and I'm assuming its irritation with me and political in nature. You will grow up someday and get past that
 
Carp said:
You realize that's irrelevant right? If lockdowns weren't in place, those 300 hundred people would turn out to be literally thousands of cases as they pass it on to their families and friends who in turn pass it on to others. Want to guess one of the most popular jobs in South Dakota? Truck drivers, that travel all over the country. 1 truck driver could spread cases in more than 10 states in less than a week.
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I don't think you understand what effective mitigation looks like. You just see that absolute dog**** that was given to us and think thats the only approach (where there is some small proof accelerated the spread within familial units).
 
thethe said:
A huge spike in early March non-flu influenza like symptoms means that the spread reached a high level at that time which would further indicate the virus was spreading for many months prior.
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No, that's explicitly the opposite of what the article you linked said.
 
thethe said:
I don't think you understand what effective mitigation looks like. You just see that absolute dog**** that was given to us and think thats the only approach (where there is some small proof accelerated the spread within familial units).
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Literally already posted a town in GA where is spread like wildfire after a funeral. But thanks for playing.
 
Maybe we should call it the New York virus since it is irrelevant to the rest of the country.

Folks in New Orleans and Detroit say hello.
 
Carp said:
You realize that's irrelevant right? If lockdowns weren't in place, those 300 hundred people would turn out to be literally thousands of cases as they pass it on to their families and friends who in turn pass it on to others. Want to guess one of the most popular jobs in South Dakota? Truck drivers, that travel all over the country. 1 truck driver could spread cases in more than 10 states in less than a week.
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Why is this going to be different in June when our house arrest is lifted?

We have to let this thing ruin its course and people at risk need to take extreme precautions
 
nsacpi said:
Maybe we should call it the New York virus since it is irrelevant to the rest of the country.

Folks in New Orleans and Detroit say hello.
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I feel bad for all the people of NO and Detroit that lost their jobs based on terrible advise from the experts. How will they feed their families in the future?
 
sturg33 said:
Why is this going to be different in June when our house arrest is lifted?

We have to let this thing ruin its course and people at risk need to take extreme precautions
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They would rather us cower in fear in our homes for 18 months as if this is the first virus thats killed people in the history of the world.

What a disaster.
 
thethe said:
There is absolutely no way these claims could have been higher than median without the spread being from months prior. Are you now just disputing the transmission rates?
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Dude, I'm not saying anything; this is literally your article. It is saying the virus is wildly contagious, with tens of millions of new infections in March.
 
Metaphysicist said:
Dude, I'm not saying anything; this is literally your article. It is saying the virus is wildly contagious, with tens of millions of new infections in March.
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And the only way to get new infections at that level would be if spread was occurring for months earlier.

Man, this is really a mental block for you.
 
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