Nobody pushes death rates in the public sphere on any of these viruses. If they were then it would be highly damaging to the public .
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Nobody pushes death rates in the public sphere on any of these viruses. If they were then it would be highly damaging to the public .
It is complete misinformation. There is zero context for that figure given.
Majorty of people need to know they are at effectively zero risk of dying.
nsacpi
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I took exception to this sentence that you posed:
What is the science that packed supermarkets are fine but open space parks and beaches are bad?
I know of no science that claims supermarkets are safe and beaches are not. Of all the things we can criticize science for surely this is not one of them.
They are just as safee/non-safe as as essential businesses. The difference being that they are not essential.
Well that's plainly a lie. No one pushed death rates for H1N1 in the media? Is that really the new lie you are telling yourself?
nsacpi
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I understand how the IFR data are not congenial for the ideas you have been pushing. I think the problems are with your pet theories not with the IFR concept, which everyone who uses professionally understands very well, including its limitations.
Even you have enough functional brain cells to understand this decision was made with a quick risk/reward calculation. A threshold of sorts was set that determines what was closed.
Standing next to a cashier to buy groceries was below that threshold. Open.
Standing next to a hairstylist to get your tips frosted was above that threshold. Closed.
It is beyond clear you are in a mental state that makes you physically incapable of applying logic to facts at hand.
I think the majority of people can figure out basic math that even if 1 percent of the population dies from the virus, that the other 99% of the population won't.
I dont know honestly. There wasnt massive takeover of the news when that was happening but will gladly say that anyone quoting a blended death rate then was misleading
This is even misleading.
Oh the professionals definitely understand. Not questioning that at all.
So why then were beaches and parks closed? Just for fun?
nsacpi
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risk/reward or in common parlance deemed non-essential
Maybe because H1N1 wasn't nearly as deadly. People tend to take notice when a bunch of people start dying from a virus in a short amount of time. Especially when these deaths are happening in major developed countries like China and Italy.
Yeah, Albany, GA and Chelsea, MA totally didn't get hit hard. We totally wouldn't have had more cities like that if we didn't take drastic measures. These towns just didn't get enough sunlight in March/April.
This doesnt refute what I said but please continue
nsacpi
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The Food and Drug Administration warned Friday that people should not take chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat covid-19 outside of a hospital or formal clinical trial, citing reports of “serious heart rhythm problems.”
Many of those adverse effects occurred in patients with the virus who were treated with the anti-malaria drugs, often in combination with azithromycin, also known as Z-Pak. President Trump has described such drugs as a potential “game-changer,” although results from clinical trials are not yet in to show whether they are effective.
“We will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 and communicate publicly when we have more information,” the FDA wrote.
The adverse events reported include abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation, dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation, and in some cases, death, the agency said. The FDA did not say how many deaths have been reported.
Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.
Many of those adverse effects occurred in patients with the virus who were treated with the anti-malaria drugs, often in combination with azithromycin, also known as Z-Pak. President Trump has described such drugs as a potential “game-changer,” although results from clinical trials are not yet in to show whether they are effective.
“We will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 and communicate publicly when we have more information,” the FDA wrote.
The adverse events reported include abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation, dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation, and in some cases, death, the agency said. The FDA did not say how many deaths have been reported.
Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.