Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/jc7.pdf


I am really going to read 106 pages of this just to call you an idiot. I am on page 11 and Clapper is saying Obama specifically did not a public statement about Russia helping Trump so as to not even give the appearance that he is trying to help Hillary. Worst. Coup. Ever.


"The difference here was this, as it evolved, was the most direct, aggressive in lts scope, and the multifaceted actions they took were
unprecedented."

James Clapper page 14 explaining how this is different from the general attempts Russia has made since the 60's to influence our elections.
 
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thethe said:
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The corruption of the Obama administration knows no bounds.

Scandal free presidency was always a projection because it was the furthest thing from the truth.

Can't wait for the landslide of 2020 and then really getting to the bottom of what the Obama administration was hiding.
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MS. FARKAS: So I will stay away from analyzing him as a person, because
that was never my job. My job in the Department of Defense was to understand his
national security .. his objectives for Russia.
And it was and continues to be my assessment that Putin has three main
objectives, him and his Kremlin. Number one, keep him in power, that is, to keep
his political system, his autocratic politicalsystem in place, as well as the mafia-style
crony capitalism in place. Second objective was to ensure that Russia is regarded
as a great power again. And the third objective is to rewrite the rules of the
international order so that it is no longer acceptable for the international community
or military intervention by the international community to defend the citizens of a
state against their despotic, brutal leadership.
 
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weird that there is no comment regarding how there is zero physical evidence that Russia hacked the DNC.

It was perfectly normal for the DNC to not give their servers to the feds.
 
thethe said:
weird that there is no comment regarding how there is zero physical evidence that Russia hacked the DNC.

It was perfectly normal for the DNC to not give their servers to the feds.
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Sergei in the server room with the screw driver.
Really ... ?
 
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What about that "scandal free presendicy"?

Can't imagine what Durham has found.

Going to be amazing for Hussein to be humiliated on the world stage for the fraud he is.
 
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Great question.

Wonder when Obama has to forfeit his nobel peace prize as well.
 
nsacpi said:
thethe is still all in on the Seth Rich thing...glad to see he is such a dedicated crusader for truth

and i believe he also continues to be firm in his belief that George Soros helped the Nazis
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thethe said:
I believe in the documented words of soros.

I believe in the documented words from Donna Brazille.

Sorry you want to run from those but will continue to peddle leaks from pathetic schiff.
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nsacpi said:
your dedication to truth is certainly admirable
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Oh boy - you knew all along nsacpi
 
Julio3000 said:
The thing you have to keep in mind with sturg is that he’s very invested in this proffered image of rationality and evidence-based opinions...but only to extent that he tells you he is. On the field, so to speak, the results are a little different. He chose to **** the Seth Rich chicken because there was “no evidence” that Russia was behind the email thefts. So advancing an obvious conspiracy theory with zero factual underpinning was enough to outweigh the opinions of the intelligence and law enforcement communities, to say nothing of common sense based on past actions, because of...Iraq, I guess? So when evidence was presented in Federal court sufficient to indict specific individuals from the GRU for the hacks, his response was just to mushmouth a bit and pivot to “well, there’s no evidence of collusion.”

Sturg’s got no real interest in evidence, he’s just dug in on a position that’s become less and less tenable as time passes, and “evidence” is just a canard that takes advantage of the still large swathes of details that are still unknowable to the public. The fact that Trump and company have lied consistently and provably throughout the process—to the public, to investigators, to Congress—is apparently not suggestive enough of wrongdoing to start digging out of that hole. He’s staked out a rather safe position: unless Vladimir Putin is personally running Trump as an intelligence asset, there’s nothing to see. Just like Russia couldn’t have influenced the election unless they actually changed vote totals. I mean, it’s tiresome to me, and it seems like a hard way to go through life, but that’s the path he’s chosen.
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Oh boy.

No wonder Julio left the forum.

How embarassing.
 
The Chosen One said:
In fairness to the others...

Hawk works/has worked in politics. He knows how the game is played. I don’t take his posts as serious because I know most of them are bordering trolling.

Krg never actually contributes to discussion unless it involves taking jabs at Avenatti (which we found out the guy who tried to pay off a woman to lie about Mueller sexually harassing her was also the guy jumping out in front of the recent Avenatti story). The only other time he posts is to quote someone else who is defending Trump using whataboutism with Obama and consistently makes the point any anti-Trumpers are too blind to Obama to have any objectivity. He’s never actually responded or refuted anything regarding Trump. Just kind of shows up like a wild Pokémon encounter. So in a way I can respect that Krg seems to know his boundaries and only seems to troll

thethe spent months and months trying to disprove the legitimacy of the dossier as well as push the deep state thing. I remember one of his posts specifically where he said “If you guys can’t see the blatantly obvious deep state connection I give up”. That’s how much in the tank he has been in for Trump. The Nunes memo and all the other PR stunts he bought into that Trump and his cronies were selling.

Sturg has spent so much time and energy for his hatred of the left that he’s unwittingly become an ardent Trump supporter especially in this collusion case. Whether mocking the investigation or just outright ignoring how awful of a person and President Trump has been because of his “results on the field”.

If you recall, when Flynn first flipped at least thethe was open to the idea there was some fire to the smoke. But then went back into the MAGA zone. sturg is the guy that continues to pretend to play the both sides card but truly is oblivious to how his posts shape him more and more to be a de facto Trump guy without realizing it. That’s not even really getting into him pushing the Seth Rich thing hard on here as well as his defending Trump on Charlottesville.
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embarrassing.


OMG


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I'm having an attack of hilarity.

Gosh you guys are stupid
 
thethe said:
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What about that "scandal free presendicy"?

Can't imagine what Durham has found.

Going to be amazing for Hussein to be humiliated on the world stage for the fraud he is.
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How long does this have to go on without a single indictment before you admit defeat? Give us a goal post and stop moving it. I gave you a goal post for me which was just a single indictment. Not even a conviction. I give you the lowest burden of proof and you still cant meet it. You know what the difference is between the Russia investigation and the Durham investigation is? The Russia investigation actually indicated and convicted people. Yet you think the investigation that has no results is legitimate and the one where multiple people pleaded guilty confessing under oath to be the fraud.
 
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Should also be noted that no candidate for the two major parties has publicly asked a hostile nation to the US for help in an election. Also that the same person you accuse of a coup against Trump deliberately took actions that significantly hurt Hillary Clinton's election chances. If James Comey wanted to prevent Trump being elected all he had to do was say publicly Hillary Clinton is innocent and the case was closed. When he publicly announced the reopening of the investigation A WEEK BEFOR THE ELECTION Hillary's advantage in the polls dropped from 7% to 2%. She won the popular vote by 2.1% I believe and Trump won 3 key battleground states by a combined margin of less than 1%. Hown****ing stupid dobyiu have to be to twist that into James Comey trying to overthrow Donald Trump. If that's what he wanted to do he could have simply said publicly the Trump campaign was being investigated for collusion with Russia. Obama specifically told them not to do that so as to avoid even the apperance that he was trying to help Hillary. You are a ****ing tin foil Owl with all your coup ****. For once in your life rise above the propoganda.


For clarification this is directed at thethe. I must have thought it was one of his posts for a reason. Not going to delete because the points are still valid.
 
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