The Coronavirus, not the beer

msstate7 said:
For my state, I check here: https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html

Hospitalizations, ICU, and vents are staying pretty flat. These are the categories that I pay attention to more than cases. The emphasis from the beginning was to prevent overwhelming the hospitals, not prevent cases, right? Flatten the curve...
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You just have to be careful because todays hospitalizations/ICU's/Vents are resulting from activity that took place 2-4 weeks prior.

What we really need is a breakout of the positive cases by age group.

Thats how we can forecast what future hospitalizations/deaths/etc. will look like
 
msstate7 said:
For my state, I check here: https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html

Hospitalizations, ICU, and vents are staying pretty flat. These are the categories that I pay attention to more than cases. The emphasis from the beginning was to prevent overwhelming the hospitals, not prevent cases, right? Flatten the curve...
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Yeah. Hospital capacity is one of the keys to avoiding bad outcomes. Hope it works out in Mississippi. Thanks for the link.
 
nsacpi said:
Yeah. Hospital capacity is one of the keys to avoiding bad outcomes. Hope it works out in Mississippi. Thanks for the link.
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Well things rarely do for us, but hopefully this is different. So far, I actually think we've done a decent job. Our testing has been pretty good... we aren't last in something!
 
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The whacked out excess mortality theory will eventually stop being discussed.

What a disaster lockdowns have been.
 
Blue states do not seem to be close to reopening despite the data demanding it.

It has to be political at this point

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People are also more or less embarassed with how wrong they were so will dig in further.

Data was clear for 2 months now.
 
sturg33 said:
Blue states do not seem to be close to reopening despite the data demanding it.

It has to be political at this point

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Things are being opened up pretty much everywhere. I went out to dinner in Connecticut last night. Outdoor seating, with distancing between tables.
 
msstate7 said:
For my state, I check here: https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html

Hospitalizations, ICU, and vents are staying pretty flat. These are the categories that I pay attention to more than cases. The emphasis from the beginning was to prevent overwhelming the hospitals, not prevent cases, right? Flatten the curve...
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There is a data lag, but you are correct.

We were supposed to hunker down to prevent hospitals from being overrun from the jump.

We were NOT supposed to hunker down until the virus went away, and it would be impossible to do so.

This time was supposed to be used to ramp up testing, institute contact tracing, and get hospitals ready for new cases. Whether or not that has happened, and who is at fault for it not happening, is certainly open for debate.

The best course of action is probably to test a lot, trace contacts of the infected, and quarantine those individuals. Problem is, when half the population cries about wearing masks as some sort of infringement on their rights, it makes those types of programs impossible. So all we can do is die like the morons we are.
 
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Enscheff said:
There is a data lag, but you are correct.

We were supposed to hunker down to prevent hospitals from being overrun from the jump.

We were NOT supposed to hunker down until the virus went away, and it would be impossible to do so.

This time was supposed to be used to ramp up testing, institute contact tracing, and get hospitals ready for new cases. Whether or not that has happened, and whose is at fault for it not happening, is certainly open for debate.
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I think there is also a question of when you open. If you open at a time the virus' reproductive rate is around 1 or just a hair below, you are taking a pretty big gamble. Maybe it works out with the warmer weather and voluntary social distancing. Maybe not.
 
One of the biggest tragedies of this is that the consolidation of wealth in the nation increased.
 
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Enemy of the people.

They should be mocked and ostracized at all times.
 
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