Braves sign Gavin Floyd 1 yr 4M + incentives
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jsebe10
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Because no organization would make a financial gamble like that. Especially the Os who are strapped for cash bc of AJ.
jsebe10
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Now if this is true and this is why he rejected, then I tip my hat to him.
It was 2 years that with incentives would get it to 20 mill. He wasn't getting 20 million. Yes when you look at what other SP's have gotten this year he would easily get Feldman money if he was healthy.
jsebe10
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I see your point. But what I really want done is to improve or weaker points. You can say that we can improve our need at 2B internally but the same could be said about the position Floyd was signed for. We HAVE to improve our bench and we need another good arm in the pen. $4 mil goes a long way in doing so.
really want to know what people would prefer we do. Give me specific examples.
Did you want to trade a guy like Sims for Kendrick? How about 3-4 of our top prospects for Samardjiza? Is Josh Johnson a better signing than Floyd? Floyd could EASILY outproduce Johnson this year.
There is nothing wrong with what's happened this off-season. We possess a very young team in every area. Our
franchise is expecting growth in many of them.
Wood in the rotation is likely a big upgrade over Maholm. Beachy can match what Hudson did provided health. Add in the expected growth of Teheran and Minor, and the steadiness of Medlen - how is that not a very good rotation?
Again, please list specifically what YOU wanted done, and what you would have given up to get it done.[/QUOTE]
really want to know what people would prefer we do. Give me specific examples.
Did you want to trade a guy like Sims for Kendrick? How about 3-4 of our top prospects for Samardjiza? Is Josh Johnson a better signing than Floyd? Floyd could EASILY outproduce Johnson this year.
There is nothing wrong with what's happened this off-season. We possess a very young team in every area. Our
franchise is expecting growth in many of them.
Wood in the rotation is likely a big upgrade over Maholm. Beachy can match what Hudson did provided health. Add in the expected growth of Teheran and Minor, and the steadiness of Medlen - how is that not a very good rotation?
Again, please list specifically what YOU wanted done, and what you would have given up to get it done.[/QUOTE]
We have no money to do anything. Pretty obvious. Roughly 13-15 million in free money. We have spend 4 mill of that and my guess is the Floyd won't get him full 4.5 in incentives but say he gets 2 mill. So 6 mill spent.
But if we did I would have done the following.
Hale, Gilmartin, & Terdo for Loshe (would the brewers do this? No clue)
Re-sign EOF 1 yr 4.5 mill (still could happen)
Sign Eric Chavez 1 yr 4 mill (still could happen but unlikely)
The braves went into last year hoping Beachy would be ready at some point. He wasn't and it backfired. So now they are going to go into next year with Floyd for Depth and paying him 4 mill. Even more Risky then Beachy. Wren was never going to do anything crazy (ala Price) but I was hoping he would actually get a healthy starting pitcher.
But if we did I would have done the following.
Hale, Gilmartin, & Terdo for Loshe (would the brewers do this? No clue)
Re-sign EOF 1 yr 4.5 mill (still could happen)
Sign Eric Chavez 1 yr 4 mill (still could happen but unlikely)
The braves went into last year hoping Beachy would be ready at some point. He wasn't and it backfired. So now they are going to go into next year with Floyd for Depth and paying him 4 mill. Even more Risky then Beachy. Wren was never going to do anything crazy (ala Price) but I was hoping he would actually get a healthy starting pitcher.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Your point?
I never mentioned EOF.[/QUOTE]
You were implying that EOF wouldn't sign for 4 mill IMO
If true and Gavin pitches most of this year and pitches well, perhaps a qualifying offer could be in order next offseason?
If he pitches well enough maybe and thats a BIG maybe. I hope we learned our lesson with Huddy.
But next year FA starting pitchers is pretty good.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
You were implying that EOF wouldn't sign for 4 mill IMO[/QUOTE]
Well IMO that's not what I was implying.
No one mentioned EOF.
But he won't get 5.5 mil, or even 4.
Well IMO that's not what I was implying.
No one mentioned EOF.
But he won't get 5.5 mil, or even 4.[/QUOTE]
Well then what was your point? Boone Logan did get 5.5 million but what does that matter?
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Well then what was your point? Boone Logan did get 5.5 million but what does that matter?[/QUOTE]
He said 4 million goes a long way.
Boone Logan getting 5.5 proves 4 million doesn't really "go a long way."
He said 4 million goes a long way.
Boone Logan getting 5.5 proves 4 million doesn't really "go a long way."[/QUOTE]
Ok misunderstanding then
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Ok misunderstanding then[/QUOTE]
Aren't we supposed to re-sign O'Flaherty?
What are we going to give him? And when is he supposed to be back?
Aren't we supposed to re-sign O'Flaherty?
What are we going to give him? And when is he supposed to be back?[/QUOTE]
well with all the other Loogy's getting signed and/or trade I don't know who else EOF can go to. I was really worried about the Nationals but not now. Not sure when he is going to sign.
I would think in the 4-4.5 with a few incentives maybe.
From MLBTradeRumors:
Before signing with the Braves for $4MM with an additional $4.5MM in incentives, starter Gavin Floyd reportedly turned down a two-year offer from the Orioles that could have reached $20MM in value with incentives, reports Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun (Twitter links). In an interesting reversal of the usual bargaining positions of player and team, Connolly writes that Baltimore was not interested in giving a one-year deal to Floyd (who is still working back from Tommy John surgery) because it sought to secure another season at a reasonable price. Meanwhile, the previously-durable righty chose the shorter-term deal, presumably hoping to prove his health and command multiple years when he enters next season's free agent market at age 31.
Before signing with the Braves for $4MM with an additional $4.5MM in incentives, starter Gavin Floyd reportedly turned down a two-year offer from the Orioles that could have reached $20MM in value with incentives, reports Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun (Twitter links). In an interesting reversal of the usual bargaining positions of player and team, Connolly writes that Baltimore was not interested in giving a one-year deal to Floyd (who is still working back from Tommy John surgery) because it sought to secure another season at a reasonable price. Meanwhile, the previously-durable righty chose the shorter-term deal, presumably hoping to prove his health and command multiple years when he enters next season's free agent market at age 31.