The Coronavirus, not the beer
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goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
I really hope one day you are able to get the mental health help you desperately are in need of
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
"One of the things we have to understand is that this virus is operating under the laws of physics, chemistry, and biology. It doesn’t in any way, shape, or form bend itself to public policy. Right now, about 5% of the US population has been infected; although it’s higher in places like New York City and some urban areas, across the world it’s about 5%.
A virus like this is transmitted by the respiratory route. I call it the leaky bucket virus because if there’s one little crack somewhere, it will get out and will infect people. Why is that important? Because we know that it will continue to infect people into 60 to 70% of the population over time. When this happens, it’s called herd immunity where these people are immune rods in the transmission reaction. That means that if I’m in contact with four people and three of them are already protected because they have antibody from having had the illness or been vaccinated, I don’t transmit to them. So the bottom-line message here is that this virus is going to keep transmitting to others until it hits that 60 or 70% level. And even then, it’s like a plane at 30,000 feet when the pilot announces we’re going to be dropping for landing. It doesn’t just suddenly land, it’ll just slow down.
So, we’re really confronted with having this virus in our population for months to years ahead if we don’t get a successful vaccine. So to answer your question of how we are going to get to that 60 or 70%, that’s what we don’t know. We’ve never had a coronavirus pandemic infection like this. It may have happened centuries ago, but we didn’t see it.
If it’s like influenza, of which there have been 10 such pandemics in the last 250 plus years, three started in our North American winter, two in our spring, three in our summer, and two in our fall. And in each instance when that happened, there was a wave that lasted several months, much like we’re seeing now around the world that seemed to disappear after several months. We don’t know what happens to the virus and it is not just based on season — it’s always just after a few months. In every instance the virus came back with a second wave. And when that happened, usually three to four months after that initial wave was over, it tended to be much, much more severe.
This is not just the 1918 pandemic because even in 2009 with H1N1, we saw that same thing happening with a much less severe pandemic. We saw an early Spring peak of cases when it first emerged in March, April, and May. Then it disappeared and came back in late August / early September and then took off with a peak in October. So that’s one model that could happen. But because this is a coronavirus [not an influenza virus], we don’t know what might happen for sure. Our group has actually put a paper on our website and the scenarios for what this might look like. We said, well, maybe it’s not going to be like a flu virus, maybe it’ll just be a slow burn and just keep doing what it’s doing now for potentially months and months to come if we don’t get a vaccine. Or we could see more of these kinds of peaks and valleys where basically certain areas light up for anywhere from a month to six weeks, and we work hard to suppress it, and then it disappears, but then it lights up somewhere else. And any of these are still possibilities.
But I can say with certainty, what I call the laws of virus physics, is that this is going to continue to transmit until we see a large part of the population infected. When you think about only 5% of this country’s been infected to date, and you understand the pain, the suffering, the death, and economic disruption that’s occurred with just 5%, then you can imagine what it’s going to take for us to get to 60 or 70%."
I suggest reading this interview -
https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/c...op-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
All else aside, this is beyond terrible. This shouldn't even be legal.
chop2chip
Well-known member
Yeah. Not a big fan of this. If case counts actually improve, there’s going to be an assumed level of chicanery.
Just another data point that this administration is more stupid than evil.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Yep. Any chance we had at something even resembling the facts is out the window if this happens.
what were we getting before?
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
There is not a world in which what we were getting before will be less accurate than what we will get with this. There just isn't. Not to mention the scary ass precedent being set with this kind of overreaching bull****.
How would you even know without understanding the process.
What we know now is that there is reason to not trust the data being reported in its current process.
Therefore, changes must be made because of how consequential the analysis of the data is.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
So this is something you want the government in charge of?
What I know now is that the hospitals can't be trusted.
The review can be done by an independent professional services firm. Id like to understand what the process is first.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
It isn't going to go through an independent professional services firm. We already know that.
Was that reported?
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
It has been reported where the reports are going to be sent. That's all we need to know to know that the data will then be twisted politically to the point that it is completely useless.
Tomahawking4life
Awaiting a Promotion
Those people can't call themselves Republicans anymore, cause that's not what the party is about
Why? Releasing bad data could cause catastrophic issues.
Financial statements aren't released to the public without independent review for that very reason.
How are you not concerned with what we learned from Florida reporting?