sturg33
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Both areas are showing massive spikes relative to prior months.
Cmon now... give me a good old classic nsacpi lecture
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Both areas are showing massive spikes relative to prior months.
Cmon now... give me a good old classic nsacpi lecture
Over a large amount of cases, it is important. Sample size matters. The fact that this has to be explained to someone who works in finance makes me sad for your clients.
nsacpi
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i think you should keep digging that hole...i'd rather keep my shoes clean
cajunrevenge
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Whats this about Japan? From basic google-fu it shows 40k cases total and 1k deaths. They are at about 1k new cases a day. We are at 40K+ per day in new cases. Whatever Japan is doing we need to be doing. Is anywhere as congested as Tokyo?
sturg33
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Lol. This is hilarious.
"Masks work and end spikes!
Except for the spikes where they aren't working. Those don't count! Not enough people
Dummy finance guy lulz"
Japan has reported 5,500 new cases in first 4 days of August... compared to 689 first 4 days of July... or, a 700% growth MoM.
Their peak cases before hand was April 12, with 743 cases.
nsacpi
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yeah...Tokyo is an extremely congested place...it is a small miracle that more people haven't gotten sick there...and I dare say widespread wearing of masks has made a positive difference in their outcomes
sturg33
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Thats on brand... run away when your narrative gets challenged
nsacpi
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I can imagine this discussion taking place on these boards in the not-so-distant future. Vaccines don't work. We've seen a 700% spike in cases in country X where vaccines are being used. Meanwhile in country Y cases are falling. Never mind that country Y has seen half its population die. Its cases are falling. And they are rising in country X. So vaccines don't work!
#sturglogic
#sturglogic
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Masks do work and curb spikes. We are seeing that in FL, AZ, TX, etc after mask mandates went into affect.
How is that you lack this much common sense?
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nsacpi
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personally i think the guy must be a genius...it reflects poorly on the rest of us that we have not been able to grasp this
sturg33
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But Spain has mask mandates
Is 20,000 greater or less than 700 finance guy?
sturg33
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My common sense tells me this virus is gonna run its course and the entire world will see spikes as it opens up more... kinda like what we are seeing.
Places like NY it has already plowed through, so rising cases won't be as much.
It is predictable that cities will mandate masks right at the case peak and then take credit as the spread declines
You may remember that up until April our health leadership all agreed that masks were not of much use. They agreed on this for years after studying several coronaviruses.
sturg33
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I think its more.
And also irrelevant when looking at trends.
It is inarguable that Japan is trending to a large spike in New cases.
Yall arguing this is arguing objective facts.
You are very quick to assign causation without any proof.
Why did sweden and new York new cases fall off a cliff eventually?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
For those of you interested in learning what is happening to cause the rise in cases in Spain, here is an article to read.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...s-telling-us-about-second-wave-of-coronavirus
money paragraph:
This shouldn’t come as a shock, given the epidemiological trade-off of easing lockdowns. People are naturally moving around more as stay-at-home curbs are rolled back, and this was always going to give the coronavirus more opportunities to mingle. Even if offices and public transport are still quiet, European streets are filled with shoppers, diners, and drinkers. Google mobility data indicate human traffic is almost back to pre-virus levels in regions like Paris, Madrid and Italy’s Lombardy.
believe it or not masks work...not perfectly but they make a positive difference...with widespread use of masks we can resume many of our normal activities...not all...places like Spain that have allowed bars to open are learning that's not a good idea...gentlemen's clubs have been a problem in japan...
with widespread wearing of masks we have a much better chance of opening schools safely than would otherwise be the case...do it for the kids, their teachers, their parents, and their grandparents...do it for the small businesspeople like barbers
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...s-telling-us-about-second-wave-of-coronavirus
money paragraph:
This shouldn’t come as a shock, given the epidemiological trade-off of easing lockdowns. People are naturally moving around more as stay-at-home curbs are rolled back, and this was always going to give the coronavirus more opportunities to mingle. Even if offices and public transport are still quiet, European streets are filled with shoppers, diners, and drinkers. Google mobility data indicate human traffic is almost back to pre-virus levels in regions like Paris, Madrid and Italy’s Lombardy.
believe it or not masks work...not perfectly but they make a positive difference...with widespread use of masks we can resume many of our normal activities...not all...places like Spain that have allowed bars to open are learning that's not a good idea...gentlemen's clubs have been a problem in japan...
with widespread wearing of masks we have a much better chance of opening schools safely than would otherwise be the case...do it for the kids, their teachers, their parents, and their grandparents...do it for the small businesspeople like barbers
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