2020 Trade Deadline Thread
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Langeliers is a higher ranked prospect than Contreras and either would be too much to give. I would add Jackson instead (who has actually been upgraded because of his improved defense and was almost in the Greene trade last year).
bravesfanMatt
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Looks like someone not on their 60 man player pool. So do they wait till end of season to name that player or do they have to add that player and then name them. Not sure how that works.
Langeliers is ranked higher - with the flashy outlets - because of a bit of prospect fatigue with Contreras on their end. Langeliers is flashier and buzzier because he hasn't been around as long, Check your lists - FanGraphs has Contreras at the top.
i'm not sure who i'd rather keep tbh. catchers are weird, so probably both.
UNCBlue012
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The only way I'd want to trade either catcher is if the Mariners pay all of Seager's money.
Walker has been traded so that won't happen now obviously, but that deal sucks for us. Walker isn't good and Seager has a massive contract that actually gets worse if he's traded. Giving up Contreras and Touki for that would be crazy.
Southcack77
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I feel like Alex and I have been on the same page with trades. I have a hard time justifying giving up anything that I'm particularly hopeful about for a bad contract or a rental or a mediocre player.
We might part ways in that I would be perfectly happy to trade premium prospects for premium players that are perfect fits. Somebody like Matt Chapman or I don't the pitching equivalent...Cleveinger say ... and I'd happily pack up Pache or Waters, Langeliers or Contreras, and most anyone else.
Then you won't have any offense at 3B for a good while.
You trade from depth to strengthen weaknesses. d'Arnaud is under contract next year and you'd still have Contreras or Langeliers, with A-Jax and Brown as inexpensive backups for several years in the event whichever one you don't trade gets you back into a 65/70% split (which I could easily see happening). Contreras' bat is good enough that he might even get some DH ABs on days off.
Enscheff has quite clearly laid out the fact that Riley IS improving, but those improvements simply aren't going to be enough for him to turn into a shell of what everyone hopes. It's a lot easier to find a competent Catcher to share time with Contreras starting in 2022 for a lot less money than finding a middle-of-the-order 3B bat will be.
I like them both. Either one is probably in our top ten and too much give up for an older player that we are taking on a big contract. Those types of guys shouldn’t be that expensive.
i don't think it would require Contreras or Langeliers to get Seager.
It shouldn't by any stretch - if it does I'm sure AA would probably say "thanks but no thanks".
The reason Dero mentioned Contreras in the deal is that we'd have also gotten what we need much more - a SP. Touki alone might be enough to get you Seager if they want to unload his money (or the vast majority of it), but he might not have been as good as the players Seattle's going to be picking from for Walker. Toronto's #6-#10 prospects aren't in their 60-Man pool, and their clocks haven't started - so they could all be dealt as PTBNLs.
that's not a very long time period.