Southcack77
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He is in the Braves organization and we've read hype articles.
2020 Trade Deadline Thread
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He is in the Braves organization and we've read hype articles.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Oh, I think San Diego has put themselves squarely in the hunt. Whether it's sustainable or not, you might argue. But they're a load right now.
Who gets hot and performs well in the playoffs wins, not the best team. Hell, Folty could come back dealing and we'd be a threat.
With Erlin and Milone, maybe not so much.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I agree that some may be sleeping on Naylor a bit. He doesn't have Waters' ceiling, but I agree Naylor's floor is pretty solid. He's going to the AL, where the DH will surely be in play even if it doesn't become universal in 2021. He could be a poor man's Travis Hafner if things break right for him.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
This will depend if he comes back this year, and how he does if so.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Padres had a LOT of players off their MLB roster they could trade, most of our trade pieces are in the minors. Cleveland where they are probably wanted guys ready now, that's the deal breaker.
But it is what it is.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Fried-Anderson-Hamels-Folty if he's hitting 94 is an ideal top 4, but alot of wishful thinking in Hamels being healthy, Anderson being good, and Folty being good again. I still dont blame AA much for yesterday.
Well, I don’t agree with your Naylor Assessment and really most prospect ratings do not either.
I “was” surprised how highly he was rated, but he’s definitely a top 100 guy. MLB has him ranked at #27. Not ONE of the Padres guys were sniffing the top 100 or even the top five of their own system.
Southcack77
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I said from the beginning that I do not consider this season to be worth going all in on. I still think that's right.
Emotionally, though, I want Anthopolous to take heat for doing nothing.
Even if it was smart. I sort of think that he could have acquired something that would have helped the Braves somewhere. Not as though there aren't holes.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Not even the Dodgers, Rays, or Yankees made a trade. The Padres were the only top team who went trade crazy.
I do think he could have gotten a better SP than Milone. But i agree this season isnt worth throwing the chips to the middle of the table.
Southcack77
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I'm not sure how to assess what they gave up but Jays, Reds, Phillies and Mets all made a few moves. Marlins too, I suppose. Cubs.
One thing worth noting about Preller going nuts with trades...
The only players that were on their roster that they DIDN'T control beyond this year when he started trading were Garrett Richards and Jurickson Profar (Kirby Yates is on the IL, but you could argue they already had his replacement in Pomeranz and that Rosenthal just makes them that much deeper for this run). That means they had exactly TWO roster spots opening this winter. They still haven't added Gore (probably takes Richards' 40-Man spot) or Campusano (probably takes Profar's). THREE of the guys they traded away were already on their 40-Man, and FOUR of the prospects they traded away (not all in the Clevinger trade) would have had to be added this winter.
Not criticizing the returns or the "go for it" mentality, but they actually didn't have a lot of choice - if they didn't make more than a couple of moves, they were in danger of losing some *amn-talented young players/prospects because they were going to be facing a pretty serious roster crunch this winter.
The only players that were on their roster that they DIDN'T control beyond this year when he started trading were Garrett Richards and Jurickson Profar (Kirby Yates is on the IL, but you could argue they already had his replacement in Pomeranz and that Rosenthal just makes them that much deeper for this run). That means they had exactly TWO roster spots opening this winter. They still haven't added Gore (probably takes Richards' 40-Man spot) or Campusano (probably takes Profar's). THREE of the guys they traded away were already on their 40-Man, and FOUR of the prospects they traded away (not all in the Clevinger trade) would have had to be added this winter.
Not criticizing the returns or the "go for it" mentality, but they actually didn't have a lot of choice - if they didn't make more than a couple of moves, they were in danger of losing some *amn-talented young players/prospects because they were going to be facing a pretty serious roster crunch this winter.
Yeah, they acquired a great peice for peices they didn’t really need. They won that trade big time in my opinion (as long as Clevenger does well).
Tommy Milone has no business on this team. Over the past 4 years he has an ERA of 5.66, the same as this year. Who gives a damn if he can throw strikes if he's throwing batting practice strikes? He's simply not worth a damn. Give those starts to Wright/Touki/Davidson. At least they have good stuff and might end up being a good major league starter.
Southcack77
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If these pieces that the Padres didn't really need go on to be vital parts of a great Indian WS club and Clevinger doesn't get San Diego over the top, their fans will have a lot different view of it.
Oh sure, you will not know for a few years. It’s definitely in the Padres favor right now...until/if the prospects do anything or frame out.
Southcack77
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Was trying to figure out if I could yell at Kiley or Eric Longenhagen about the 1700 RPM spin rate on Anderson without looking like a lunatic and noticed his explanation for downgrading Waters.
No change in his view of him as a prospect, but he (Eric) has decided to downgrade free swinging prospects as a class and that is reflected in Waters demotion despite not having appeared in public game.
No change in his view of him as a prospect, but he (Eric) has decided to downgrade free swinging prospects as a class and that is reflected in Waters demotion despite not having appeared in public game.
He's probably not wrong.
Southcack77
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Maybe not...thought someone had mentioned this last week.
I give Waters a little bit of a break on this because he's never really struggled at any level before AAA. So maybe he can make an adjustment when that happens. But it seems to me that he's relatively far off because of this issue.
Waters was a 55 in 2019 for what it's worth. He also plays a premium defensive position while Naylor is a 1b. And of course, Waters is 21 compared to Naylor being 23. There's also the fact the Naylor has struggled in his cup of tea in the majors. It would seem Naylor's value is more similar to Riley's at the moment.
I disagree, but I suppose Cleveland's opinion is the only one that matters on that. Naylor isn't much of a OFer though. At 5/11 250 (250 is being generous, imo) he's a 1b playing LF.