25th Amendment

striker42

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So Pelosi and the Dems will be unveiling legislation creating a commission on presidential capacity under the 25th Amendment. A couple things on this.

First, the idea isn't new. There have been attempts to create such a commission before.

Second, Congress absolutely has the power to do this. It's in the language of the 25th Amendment. "Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide". This would be removing the roll of the Cabinet and inserting a body selected by Congress.

Third, this is actually a fantastic idea. The flaw of the 25th Amendment is that by default the decision is placed in the hands of the "officers of the executive departments", a group of people who serve at the leisure of the President. So if the President regains control after an attempt to declare him incompetent, he could arguably fire his Cabinet and replace them with yes men. The SCOTUS might have something to say about it but it's definitely a real possibility. Also, a President's Cabinet often isn't going to be willing to go against their President in the first place. So removing their role is a good idea.

The VP on the other hand isn't someone the President can fire. So even if the President says he's fit, the VP and a competency commission could disagree and send the matter to Congress to vote.

Finally, the timing of this is so poor I think it poisons the idea forever, or at least for the foreseeable future. This is something that needs done (especially staring down the barrel of a President approaching 80) but it's not politicized when it shouldn't be politicized.
 
POTUS is hiding his health issues and is still a danger to the country. She's just firing the only weapon she has in his direction. Hard to see how anything could come of it but we know that if he DID have a medical issue, he would hide it and would never sign over power to the VP.
 
Is she preparing this to take out Biden?

Misusing it would be hard. The commission is supposed to be people appointed by Republicans and Democrats (medical professionals and former officials). You'd need Harris AND the commission to sign off on it. Then Biden would just send a letter saying he's fine. At that point Harris and the commission would again have to say the he's is incapacitated. At that point you would need 2/3 of both houses to vote to oust the President.

Honestly, impeachment is easier.
 
Nancy is just trying to provoke him into saying something stupid about wanting a BIGGER PACKAGE.

Looks like she succeeded.
 
Nancy is just trying to provoke him into saying something stupid about wanting a BIGGER PACKAGE.

Looks like she succeeded.

I just hate this is becoming a weapon. It's actually something that's pretty important. The president's capacity isn't always a hard call. A President in a coma is easy. A President with the early stages dementia who had good days and bad is a little harder. We need a process like this to ensure a transition in that case.

I'm not a fan of Harris but I'd rather have Harris than Joe Biden if he were to develop dementia causing him to be easily influenced and experience sundowners.
 
Well isn't the 25th amendment precisely for this kind of situation where a president becomes obsessed with the size of his package.
 
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