GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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cajunrevenge said:
Its a matter of how you frame it. Biden is going to get significantly more votes than anyone in US history and will mark the second the time he has been on a ticket that shattered voting records. They should tout the popular vote and how Republicans are a shrinking minority party only viable because of the Electoral college. Democrats got their voters out. Trump did a great job of getting his voters out. With such a high turnout we are getting the truest reflection of the country we have ever had in an election.
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I don't see how the GOP can produce the same rural turnout Trump has the last two elections unless they send another racebaiting xenophobic candidate out again in 2024.

The Romney and McCain types just don't appeal to those rural voters that Trump, to his credit, has brought out in big numbers in NC and OH.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Its a matter of how you frame it. Biden is going to get significantly more votes than anyone in US history and will mark the second the time he has been on a ticket that shattered voting records. They should tout the popular vote and how Republicans are a shrinking minority party only viable because of the Electoral college. Democrats got their voters out. Trump did a great job of getting his voters out. With such a high turnout we are getting the truest reflection of the country we have ever had in an election.
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Trump may also have the 2nd most votes in history though. I would hesitate to call Republicans a shrinking party, particularly given the results in WI and MI in the last 2 elections are basically toss-ups and they have historically been a good Dem lean. Ditto with PA.
 
The Chosen One said:
I don't see how the GOP can produce the same rural turnout Trump has the last two elections unless they send another racebaiting xenophobic candidate out again in 2024.

The Romney and McCain types just don't appeal to those rural voters that Trump, to his credit, has brought out in big numbers in NC and OH.
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A Biden Presidency isnt likely to inspire the same turnout on Dem side either. All the enthusiasm is around Trump, for him or against him. If Trump loses I expect him to start his 2024 campaign January 22nd.
 
cajunrevenge said:
A Biden Presidency isnt likely to inspire the same turnout on Dem side either. All the enthusiasm is around Trump, for him or against him. If Trump loses I expect him to start his 2024 campaign January 22nd.
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I hadn't thought about that.

But if Trump is indeed the lightning rod for turnout for both sides, then him being eliminated from the equation should kind of push things back to the norm. In that case, even Hillary could win. I just don't see who the GOP could throw out there in 2024. Sasse? Cotton? Rubio? lol.
 
Carp said:
Trump may also have the 2nd most votes in history though. I would hesitate to call Republicans a shrinking party, particularly given the results in WI and MI in the last 2 elections are basically toss-ups and they have historically been a good Dem lean. Ditto with PA.
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The popular vote gap is widening. If not for the electoral college they would have next to no chance to win the Presidency. This one would have been called 12 hours ago.
 
msstate7 said:
Are Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Nevada currently counting? No updates at all it seems
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Wisconsin is pretty much done.

Pennsylvania just started counting absentee ballots today.

Nevada said they would likely update by tonight, be done by tomorrow morning.
 
The Chosen One said:
I don't see how the GOP can produce the same rural turnout Trump has the last two elections unless they send another racebaiting xenophobic candidate out again in 2024.
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I'm sorry but this is the exact type of thinking of why Republicans just mopped the floor with Democrats in the Senate and House races, unless you think the Republicans only ran bigots this year.
 
North Carolina says they are awaiting for ballots that were mailed yesterday and day before yesterday.

NC Board of Elections says if the amount they're awaiting, is bigger than the current Trump lead, they will wait for everything to be counted.
 
The Chosen One said:
I hadn't thought about that.

But if Trump is indeed the lightning rod for turnout for both sides, then him being eliminated from the equation should kind of push things back to the norm. In that case, even Hillary could win. I just don't see who the GOP could throw out there in 2024. Sasse? Cotton? Rubio? lol.
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Its Rands time to shine imo
 
chop2chip said:
I'm sorry but this is the exact type of thinking of why Republicans just mopped the floor with Democrats in the Senate and House races, unless you think the Republicans only ran bigots this year.
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I mean, the Senate races, the GOP incumbents have had to walk the tightrope with ignoring all the dumb things Trump says, and trying to appeal locally.

I haven't looked at the House races yet, so I will see.

But, I do believe that Ernst, Thillis, Daines, benefitted from Trump's rural turnout.
 
Democrats out fundraised Republicans 3 to 1 and will likely lose seats and the house and maybe win 1 seat in the senate.

Modern liberalism has a broad populist appeal. The modern Democrat party does everything it can to narrow the tent for who is welcome inside.
 
The Chosen One said:
I hadn't thought about that.

But if Trump is indeed the lightning rod for turnout for both sides, then him being eliminated from the equation should kind of push things back to the norm. In that case, even Hillary could win. I just don't see who the GOP could throw out there in 2024. Sasse? Cotton? Rubio? lol.
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I’m personally a big fan of Sasse and think he would be great but he won’t get Trump’s base fired up. I most worry about some crazy like Tucker Carlson or Don Jr/Ivanka running... Trump hardcores will lap that stuff up.
 
chop2chip said:
Democrats out fundraised Republicans 3 to 1 and will likely lose seats and the house and maybe win 1 seat in the senate.

Modern liberalism has a broad populist appeal. The modern Democrat party does everything it can to narrow the tent for who is welcome inside.
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What you dont love the nsacpis of the world constantly talking down to you while also constantly being wrong?
 
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