REAL FOOTBALL Thread

Tomorrow is the deadline for underclassmen to declare for the NFL Draft. Late tomorrow night, I will start my three round mocks, like I did on the other site.
 
Early predictions on next weeks big games?

I think its going to be a Niners/Broncos SB!!!

But, if the weather is real cold for the Denver/NE game then I will take NE.
 
Pats/Seahawks

Denver has the better team, but I'm gonna bet on Brady's record vs. Peyton. And with a 71/19 or whevere it is advantage from the last 2 games in Seattle, I'm not gonna bet against Seattle.
 
Last year Kaep was still green and this year there was no Crabtree. The game was actually tight until midway through the second half. I think Kaep is much better now.

But hey, you can keep picking against SF every week. Eventually you might be right!
 
zitothebrave said:
Pats/Seahawks

Denver has the better team, but I'm gonna bet on Brady's record vs. Peyton. And with a 71/19 or whevere it is advantage from the last 2 games in Seattle, I'm not gonna bet against Seattle.
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It's more BB vs Peyton, and they dont play against each other.
 
thethe said:
Last year Kaep was still green and this year there was no Crabtree. The game was actually tight until midway through the second half. I think Kaep is much better now.

But hey, you can keep picking against SF every week. Eventually you might be right!
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Kaepernick looked like crud last week. And Seattle is in his head. Last week I said the San Fran and Carolina are about equals. Seattle is in a different class than the rest of the NFC. Maybe San Fran wins, but to win they likely will need to hold Seattle to under 20 points, since Harbaugh was with the Niners they've never scored 20 points in Seattle (they did win with Alex Smith at the helm before Seattle got great)
 
That defense is pretty solid over in Carolina as well and Kaep made more than enough plays to win that game. He started off like hot garbage and then they figured things out and he played just fine for a good portion of the game.

You also thought GB was going to beat SF.
 
thethe said:
That defense is pretty solid over in Carolina as well and Kaep made more than enough plays to win that game. He started off like hot garbage and then they figured things out and he played just fine for a good portion of the game.

You also thought GB was going to beat SF.
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He got 3 free first downs in key positions of the game as well And 2 key picks from Cam that gave him great field position. Wilson is less likely to do the same. And Kaepernicks' "great" play resulted in 23 points from all that. Odds are that won't happen again in Seattle. If the calls go the other way (which they very well may, don't think the refs didn't see the way Boldin was acting and don't intend on letting that slip)

If Kaepernick plays against seattle with their great secondary like he did against Carolina, he loses. One thing he likely has more this week than last week is Davis as Carolina has a better LB crew.
 
Kaep has done just fine against some really good defensive teams this year. Seattle is a different beast but Kaep has shown plenty this year.
 
I am curious what non-saints fans think the Saints could get in return for Jimmy Graham in terms of draft picks if they franchise him and trade him. And thats if he is franchised under the TE tag which I think he will be because he lined up as a traditional TE 51% of the time in the regular season.
 
thethe said:
Kaep has done just fine against some really good defensive teams this year. Seattle is a different beast but Kaep has shown plenty this year.
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Kaep has been very underwhelming all yr long. You guys are winning due to a dominant defense and great running game. Take away one of those and the Niners are .500 or less team.
 
Carp said:
Kaep has been very underwhelming all yr long. You guys are winning due to a dominant defense and great running game. Take away one of those and the Niners are .500 or less team.
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Shows what you know. 49ers running game hasn't been great all year. Many metrics show it to ne bad this year. As soon as Crab came back Kaepernick was good.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I am curious what non-saints fans think the Saints could get in return for Jimmy Graham in terms of draft picks if they franchise him and trade him. And thats if he is franchised under the TE tag which I think he will be because he lined up as a traditional TE 51% of the time in the regular season.
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They arent trading him, but he'd fetch a 1 for sure.

Plenty of teams would trade for him and give him the contract he deserves.
 
I do kinda agree with Zito with Kap/Seattle.

For whatever reason, he has horrible problems up there, cant communicate, and they usually at least get 1 pick a game off him.

Maybe it changes but its a house of horrors for him thus far.
 
Heyward said:
They arent trading him, but he'd fetch a 1 for sure.

Plenty of teams would trade for him and give him the contract he deserves.
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SOmeone will. But I don't think he'll get the haul many expect. If the Saints are in cap hell they'd have to release him anyway. But I imagine that the Seahawks would jump on that. Same with say the Ravens who aren't that bad in cap sitatuion since they're outside of Flacco's first year.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Its not about cap reasons its about Graham being a terrible run blocker and the Saints becoming a run heavy team going forward.
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It's a fair argument with that but he's still one of the top weapons in football.

Blocking can improve with work, coaching, etc.
 
zitothebrave said:
SOmeone will. But I don't think he'll get the haul many expect. If the Saints are in cap hell they'd have to release him anyway. But I imagine that the Seahawks would jump on that. Same with say the Ravens who aren't that bad in cap sitatuion since they're outside of Flacco's first year.
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Saints arent in cap hell per say but they'll have some interesting decisions to make to get under the cap.

I'd imagine Will Smith is cut along with some others.
 
Heyward said:
Saints arent in cap hell per say but they'll have some interesting decisions to make to get under the cap.

I'd imagine Will Smith is cut along with some others.
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Saints are in cap hell. They can afford to keep Graham, but not too much more than that. If they don't keep graham they can make other moves.

Saints have some very tough decisions.
 
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