The Coronavirus, not the beer

jpx7 said:
It's cycles of lockdown and careful, measured, limited re-openings, back and forth, until an effective vaccine has been produced. There's no silver-bullet—it's harm-reduction. Epidemiologists have said as much since day-one.
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Just seems lock downs delay inevitable while doing severe economic damage
 
msstate7 said:
Just seems lock downs delay inevitable while doing severe economic damage
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Another full on lockdown is not the answer, but delaying IS. When we get a vaccine, every bit of delaying we've had will legitimately save lives. It is not inevitable. We just need time.
 
jpx7 said:
It's cycles of lockdown and careful, measured, limited re-openings, back and forth, until an effective vaccine has been produced. There's no silver-bullet—it's harm-reduction. Epidemiologists have said as much since day-one.
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This is so hard for them to understand.
 
Hopefully, the coming lockdowns will be careful and measured and of limited duration and as thoughtful as the re-opens should be. With the virulence of the coronavirus seemingly lessened, other serious factors which come with lockdowns take on added weight.
 
BedellBrave said:
Hopefully, the coming lockdowns will be careful and measured and of limited duration and as thoughtful as the re-opens should be. With the virulence of the coronavirus seemingly lessened, other serious factors which come with lockdowns take on added weight.
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I think we've learned a lot since March. Young children don't seem to act as vectors to the extent adults do. Keep their schools open. We've learned that bars and other crowded indoor spaces are the big risks. We should really target economic aid to those businesses like bars and gyms that might have to be shut down. Hopefully that sort of targeted approach will be enough to keep the medical system from being overwhelmed. Without being prohibitively costly. If its not quite enough, then we look at barbershops, nail salons, etc. And target economic aid to them and their workers.

And I still want to beat the drums for high frequency testing. If that barber (and the customers) are being tested every week or two, that might be good enough in terms of mitigating spread to keep them open.
 
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BedellBrave said:
It'll be interesting to watch what Biden's team begins recommending after being officially announced on Monday.
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They do have the advantage of coming at this without being tied to an existing strategy and without feeling the need to defend it and stick with it too long.
 
Lockdowns will be off the table. Both sides poisoned that well.

I think a national mask mandates will happen and it would be a measure of good faith for conservatives to embrace it.
 
Yall crack me up. Trump rallies are death sentences. Schools must be shuttered. Bars and restaurants gotta go. Churches? No way!

Yall remember when yall DEFENDED a woman getting arrested for going to the park? Yall remember when yall DEFENDED a man getting arrested for paddle boarding alone? Yall remember when yall DEFENDED a drive in easter service getting reported for mandatort quarantine?

But thousands of people piled into the street - many not wearing masks - is juuuuuuuuuust fine

Just like the Floyd protests were juuuuuuuuust fine.

I wish the party of science could keep their science in order

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Let’s lockdown again and throw another few million people into poverty. It’s so righteous for those that risk nothing to tell others to lose their livelihoods.
 
I've got a friend who has stage 4 cancer and he's needed to be in a hospital at least 3 times recently and get's shuffled out because they need the bed.
 
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