The Coronavirus, not the beer

[Dalyn]

Holy ****. This is THE DUMBEST TAKE.

Why should you be able to sue a business for contracting covid there? Please...I'd love to hear this.

Katie Porter is a joke.

My job cuts every corner they can and do not make us aware if we have been exposed (by a coworker even). One outbreak we had they literally told my roommate that he had minimal exposure, and we found out it was his ****ing assistant. No one had more exposure than he did. Should a job not have any responsibility toward the safety of their employees at all?

 

[sturg33]

The demands of Pelosi are patently absurd. She refuses to do a simple relief bill without insanity added into it

 

[Tapate50]

My job cuts every corner they can and do not make us aware if we have been exposed (by a coworker even). One outbreak we had they literally told my roommate that he had minimal exposure, and we found out it was his ****ing assistant. No one had more exposure than he did. Should a job not have any responsibility toward the safety of their employees at all?

There is no way to know who was exposed and where, especially enough for a judgement.

Everyone does reasonably what they can, but when you go to work and not stay home everyone knows they are at risk. its assumed.

If businesses were liable for this, every one (and I mean every single business) with a positive case would be in court by Feb 1. People love free money.

 

[Tapate50]

The demands of Pelosi are patently absurd. She refuses to do a simple relief bill without insanity added into it

People would have had some relief by now if she wasn't standing in the way.

A true patriot.

 

[Dalyn]

There is no way to know who was exposed and where, especially enough for a judgement.

Everyone does reasonably what they can, but when you go to work and not stay home everyone knows they are at risk. its assumed.

If businesses were liable for this, every one (and I mean every single business) with a positive case would be in court by Feb 1. People love free money.

If an accident happens at your job, and safety regulations were bent, broken, tweaked, etc, the business is liable. It should be the same in this case.

 

[Tapate50]

If an accident happens at your job, and safety regulations were bent, broken, tweaked, etc, the business is liable. It should be the same in this case.

The business is still liable for your injuries even if they weren't bent or broken. That is usually a case of an employee breaking the rules. If you went in with a cough and developed a fever and got others sick, should you be able to be sued? Your employer? Who made the call if you come in or not?

In a pandemic with a invisible foe, you shouldn't be able to sue my business bc we asked you not to come in to make a payment but you did anyway.

 

[Dalyn]

The business is still liable for your injuries even if they weren't bent or broken. That is usually a case of an employee breaking the rules. If you went in with a cough and developed a fever and got others sick, should you be able to be sued? Your employer? Who made the call if you come in or not?

In a pandemic with a invisible foe, you shouldn't be able to sue my business bc we asked you not to come in to make a payment but you did anyway.

We are supposed to be checked before entering the building. One of several ways they are bending this rule? If someone has a fever, they can take medicine and wait and check again. So they are masking a fever. That's all they are doing. We are not being told when this happens, so we could be working with someone who has a masked fever.

 

[Dalyn]

We have had 5 outbreaks so far since reopening in July. That's a lot. There's a problem.

 

[Jaw]

My father has been battling Covid going on 2 weeks. Numbers not good but haven't been bad enough to jump the hospital bed-wait time. Taking him to the hospital now though. Blood oxygen levels too low to risk it any longer.

One of my staff members tested positive last week. Another staff member's wife has as well.

Buckle-up.

Dang Bedell I just saw this. We'll be lifting your father up.

 

[Tapate50]

We have had 5 outbreaks so far since reopening in July. That's a lot. There's a problem.

We have three in the last two months. Did what we could. Not our employers fault though

 

[Dalyn]

We have three in the last two months. Did what we could. Not our employers fault though

That doesn't mean it is never the fault of the employer. We should at least have the option to investigate that possibility.

 

[Tapate50]

That doesn't mean it is never the fault of the employer. We should at least have the option to investigate that possibility.

Do you open up yourself for liability if you get someone sick?

 

[msstate7]

Do you open up yourself for liability if you get someone sick?

Good question. Say someone comes to my home and gets covid, should I be liable? What if they pass it on to their elderly parent and they die, do I get a wrongful death law suit?

 

[thethe]

That doesn't mean it is never the fault of the employer. We should at least have the option to investigate that possibility.

I agree that investigation after irregular data is the best course of action.

 

[striker42]

Suing someone for getting you sick is an extremely difficult suit to maintain. First, being able to prove exactly who got you sick is difficult. Just because you were exposed to someone with COVID doesn't mean they gave it to you. You could have picked it up at a store or restaurant.

More importantly, there's going to need to be some act that's the basis for liability. For example, if you know you have COVID, you invite someone into your home, you don't warn them, and they get sick, I could see a basis for a lawsuit there. In that case you probably have a duty to disclose to that person that you're sick and let them decide if they want to assume the risk or not.

Some states have already passed some liability protections for certain parties as well. So that can change things as well.

Ultimately, these kinds of cases are very difficult to prove. Employers are probably the most vulnerable to suit absent some kind of statutory protection.

 

[Dalyn]

Do you open up yourself for liability if you get someone sick?

There are other situations where this is the case in the United States, but that's not the point. Our employers have guidelines to keep us safe. If they are not following them, and it leads to an outbreak, there should be consequences.

 

[Tapate50]

There are other situations where this is the case in the United States, but that's not the point. Our employers have guidelines to keep us safe. If they are not following them, and it leads to an outbreak, there should be consequences.

You can still have a suit/fine without actually contracting Covid which is what this statute is saying. OSHA fines people big time for not following protocols without involving the legal system. It works and it doesn’t give lawyers another endless pool of paydays that stick it to small businesses. Every business would be in court by Feb if you opened it up.

Lawyers would take cases on the off chance they got the right jury

 

[Dalyn]

You can still have a suit/fine without actually contracting Covid which is what this statute is saying. OSHA fines people big time for not following protocols without involving the legal system. It works and it doesn’t give lawyers another endless pool to stick it to small businesses

If I miss time from work right now because I have Covid, I don't get paid. If I get Covid through negligence from my job, they should (at the very least) have to pay me while I am out.

 

[Tapate50]

That’s not sick leave? You can’t work from home ?

Is it 1099?

 

[Dalyn]

That’s not sick leave? You can’t work from home ?

Is it 1099?

If you do not have sick time available, you won't get paid, but I would if I had an injury from work because of negligence, regardless of sick time.

Oh, and yes, I can work from home, but they refuse to let us because I work for the government, and they are ****ty bastards. I actually got far more work done from home when we were shutdown, but that would make far too much sense. I live in WV, so you can imagine what it is like.