GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

[nsacpi]

I’m honored since this is coming from you.

you should be...i find you to be an interesting subject of study...a type specimen is the term used by anthropologists and population geneticists...and i've been able to learn a lot about the type that you represent

 

[thethe]

you should be...i find you to be an interesting subject of study...a type specimen is the term used by anthropologists...and i've been able to learn a lot about the type that you represent

Superiority complex exudes from each and every one of your posts. Internal validation that the pieces of paper you’ve acquired actually speaks to your intelligence level. It’s been clear for a while and despite being wrong in nearly every big issue the past 4 years you continue on. Admirable.

 

[nsacpi]

Superiority complex exudes from each and every one of your posts. Internal validation that the pieces of paper you’ve acquired actually speaks to your intelligence level. It’s been clear for a while and despite being wrong in nearly every big issue the past 4 years you continue on. Admirable.

you have to remember i am an insufferable elitist

how many people do you know are in a position to look down on ivy leaguers

my immediate family has a multi-generational record of turning down Harvard...which is nothing really considering they are a third-rate institution

don't take it personally...my brother went to princeton and i always tell him he is an embarrassment to the family

 

[thethe]

you have to remember i am an insufferable elitist

how many people do you know are in a position to look down on ivy leaguers

my family has a multi-generational record of turning down Harvard...which is nothing really considering they are a third-rate institution

I’m sure you turned down one ccp spy hub for another.

 

[mqt]

According to the minority... joe says there is no diversity among blacks like Hispanics

Joe Biden is an idiot. Just not as much of an idiot as Trump.

However, there is certainly some truth to the statement, it’s just far more nuanced than Biden’s claims. Neither group is a monolith, but there is a gap amongst Hispanic voters culturally than many others because it’s a blanket term for a wider group. The issue I take with it isn’t that it’s wrong to assume more political diversity amongst one group than the other, but implying that the less politically diverse group is all the same.

 

[57Brave]

Bear in mind it is the prerogative of the Speaker to seat members of the House
and the prerogative of the VP to seat members of the Senate
............

Influential (D) are in active discussions whether or not to exercise that prerogative

This could get interesting

 

[nsacpi]

Joe Biden is an idiot. Just not as much of an idiot as Trump.

However, there is certainly some truth to the statement, it’s just far more nuanced than Biden’s claims. Neither group is a monolith, but there is a gap amongst Hispanic voters culturally than many others because it’s a blanket term for a wider group. The issue I take with it isn’t that it’s wrong to assume more political diversity amongst one group than the other, but implying that the less politically diverse group is all the same.

The other thing to keep in mind about very poorly chosen one's "improvement" with minorities is that his 2016 numbers represented an historic low for GOP candidates. From where it was in 2016, there was no way to go but up.

 

[thethe]

Joe Biden is an idiot. Just not as much of an idiot as Trump.

However, there is certainly some truth to the statement, it’s just far more nuanced than Biden’s claims. Neither group is a monolith, but there is a gap amongst Hispanic voters culturally than many others because it’s a blanket term for a wider group. The issue I take with it isn’t that it’s wrong to assume more political diversity amongst one group than the other, but implying that the less politically diverse group is all the same.

For the most part stereotypes are based on some observed behavior. Black people have traditional been effectively a monolith. The question is when there is suddenly movement across the nation in a traditionally one party vote group is that systemic around the nation or regional?

 

[thethe]

The other thing to keep in mind about very poorly chosen one's "improvement" with minorities is that his 2016 numbers represented an historic low for GOP candidates. From where it was in 2016, there was no way to go but up.

He got the most support from a republican candidate since 1960 I recall.

This is another one you can chalk up to your propensity to be disingenuous.

 

[nsacpi]

Bear in mind it is the prerogative of the Speaker to seat members of the House
and the prerogative of the VP to seat members of the Senate
............

Influential (D) are in active discussions whether or not to exercise that prerogative

This could get interesting

That would be a mistake. Anti-democratic (with a small d).

 

[nsacpi]

He got the most support from a republican candidate since 1960 I recall.

This is another one you can chalk up to your propensity to be disingenuous.

We don't really know. These data come from exit polls, which this year had a lot of issues. There are some counties in south Texas that are very heavily Hispanic where he did very well compared to past Republican candidates.

 

[nsacpi]

The improvement in some of those counties is very large.

Starr County Texas for example (95% Hispanic) went from 19% very poorly chosen one in 2016 to 47% in 2020. Kudos to him. But I will also add that if there is any one group of counties that a statistical analysis of outliers would flag, it would be those south Texas counties. I don't think being a statistical outlier is proof of fraud. But if we are going to use that standard, those counties would be good candidates for closer examination.

 

[57Brave]

That would be a mistake. Anti-democratic (with a small d).

would it ?
It speaks directly to the 106-127 signa tours that have declared their opinion of small d democracy.

 

[nsacpi]

Just to stay on Starr County for a little longer the Republican presidential vote totals over the years look like this:

2000 1,911
2004 2,552
2008 1,492
2012 1,549
2016 2,228
2020 8,224

As I said statistical anomalies are not proof of fraud. But someone with a conspiratorial mindset might go hmmm at these numbers.

 

[mqt]

Bear in mind it is the prerogative of the Speaker to seat members of the House
and the prerogative of the VP to seat members of the Senate
............

Influential (D) are in active discussions whether or not to exercise that prerogative

This could get interesting

Please don’t.

 

[nsacpi]

would it ?
It speaks directly to the 106-127 signa tours that have declared their opinion of small d democracy.

What that group did was anti-democratic. But in a democratic system we ultimately have to rely on the voters to be the guardians of democracy. If they aint interested, then we'll eventually get what we deserve.

There is an old question that the Greek philosophers wrestled with:

who will guard the guardians?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The answer in a modern democracy has to be the voters. Not Nancy.

 

[thethe]

Just to stay on Starr County for a little longer the Republican presidential vote totals over the years look like this:

2000 1,911
2004 2,552
2008 1,492
2012 1,549
2016 2,228
2020 8,224

As I said statistical anomalies are not proof of fraud. But someone with a conspiratorial mindset might go hmmm at these numbers.

I’d welcome an audit just as any republican won state would.

 

[mqt]

What that group did was anti-democratic. But in a democratic system we ultimately have to rely on the voters to be the guardians of democracy. If they aint interested, then we'll eventually get what we deserve.

There is an old question that the Greek philosophers wrestled with:

who will guard the guardians?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The answer in a modern democracy has to be the voters. Not Nancy.

This. I’ll never understand why we must rush down the exact same road the other side is on the moment it suits us. These representatives were fairly elected, just as Biden was. The only argument in favor of this would be if Trump remained in office come Inauguration Day.

 

[nsacpi]

I’d welcome an audit just as any republican won state would.

The thing that needs to be considered in this discussion about audits is that election law in most states is specific about what triggers an audit. We depart from the rule of law if we audit based on outcome. The standards need to be consistent with the law and across elections if the law is unchanged. I can't demand an audit in Starr County based on my not liking the numbers there.

 

[nsacpi]

This. I’ll never understand why we must rush down the exact same road the other side is on the moment it suits us. These representatives were fairly elected, just as Biden was. The only argument in favor of this would be if Trump remained in office come Inauguration Day.

We have to be very careful about setting bad precedents.