GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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Man, for the fraud boy to act dumb about Q Anon

They seemed to have a bunch of people willing to attack the capitol to overturn an election

Weird how FB still acts like he’s never heard of them
 
Super said:
no one who supported trump gets a pass now. you can say “i don’t condone the violence” but unless you’re truly a massive idiot (which i guess a lot of you are) you had to know this was coming. this was always the end game. all of this for a blatant easily verifiable lie. defending his rhetoric and actions for 4 years got us here. his supporters have touted violence the entire time. what exactly did you think they were going to do if they believed the election had been stolen? this is why you don’t elect and defend a psychopathic narcissist. but y’all did it. and i shouldn’t call you morons?
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You sound like a 12 year old girl trying to boss s younger sibling around. Your opinion is worth no more than the guy who crapped in Capitol. Deal with it.
 
Like I said these people will get off light so long as they admit they were crazy and dont try and double down on their insanity. I wonder how civil penalties are going for this guy. If he aint in prison he should have ample ability to pay off some lawsuits for these people.
 
Yes

Led by the president and other high up players

And they just want to sweep it under the rug and move past it as quickly as they can

We can start healing and stop the division when all the criminals are held accountable
 
Pelosi came out today and said rioters chose "whiteness" over democracy. If there's one surefire way to start alienating people from siding with her against Trump it's turning this into a race issue.

She should be keeping the focus on Trump. Say you had people choose fanatical loyalty to one man over democracy.
 
striker42 said:
Pelosi came out today and said rioters chose "whiteness" over democracy. If there's one surefire way to start alienating people from siding with her against Trump it's turning this into a race issue.

She should be keeping the focus on Trump. Say you had people choose fanatical loyalty to one man over democracy.
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I would say two things about this:

1) White grievance politics is a MAJOR part of what defines and animates this movement.

2) Pelosi, Biden, etc should soft-pedal that angle in their public statements for tactical reasons.

But WE (you and I) should not fool ourselves. The people in that mob that stormed the Capitol ARE animated to a large degree by a hyper-exaggerated sense of white victimhood. I'm gonna post a tweet from Amash last night that I've posted in a couple other threads because I think it contains a lot of wisdom. It addresses "conservative victimhood" generally but nestled within that is a very large dollop of "white victimhood and grievance."

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nsacpi said:
I would say two things about this:

1) White grievance politics is a MAJOR part of what defines this movement.

2) Pelosi, Biden, etc should soft-pedal that angle in their public statements for tactical reasons

But WE (you and I) should not fool ourselves. The people in that mob that stormed the Capitol ARE animated to a large degree by a hyper-exaggerated sense of white victimhood. I'm gonna post a tweet from Amash last night that I've posted in a couple other threads because I think it contains a lot of wisdom. It addresses "conservative victimhood" generally but nestled within that is a very large dollop of "white victimhood and grievance."

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We live in a society that measures worth by victimhood. Victims are good, privilege is bad. We're in an arms race of racial victimhood.

But yeah, it's not smart tactically to make race a major issue in this. It just gives Republicans an out. It's easier to fight Pelosi on race than on Trump.
 
striker42 said:
We live in a society that measures worth by victimhood. Victims are good, privilege is bad. We're in an arms race of racial victimhood.

But yeah, it's not smart tactically to make race a major issue in this. It just gives Republicans an out. It's easier to fight Pelosi on race than on Trump.
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I reject the equivalence implicit in your post. Minorities in this country, especially African Amercians, have solid grounds for feeling racially aggrieved. There may be elements of wokeness that are easily caricatured and disposed of. But this does not detract from the fact there is a fundamental difference between hyper-exaggerated white racial victimhood and black victimhood which is grounded in a daily reality.
 
nsacpi said:
I reject the equivalence implicit in your post. Minorities in this country, especially African Amercians, have solid grounds for feeling racially aggrieved. There may be elements of wokeness that are easily caricatured and disposed of. But this does not detract from the fact there is a fundamental difference between hyper-exaggerated white racial victimhood and black victimhood which is grounded in a daily reality.
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I didn't say if one group's complaints were more or less valid, just that society values victims. Everyone wants to be the victim.
 
nsacpi said:
I said there was an equivalence implicit in your post. I stand by that.
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No equivalence was intended. More of a comment on our society. Baseball values wins so every team wants to win. Not every team wins the same. Society values victimhood so everyone wants to be the victim but not everyone has been victimized the same.
 
Cheri Jacobus
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The wife of a Supreme Court Justice is likely being questioned by the FBI about her role in planning the Wednesday "protest" and march on the Capitol.

Think about that for a minute.

you were saying about the Deep State
 
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