The Coronavirus, not the beer

Dalyn said:
This kind of thing just comes from a place that has no true understanding of mental illness. When I get a glimpse of how badly disconnected some of us are from others (usually when I have intimate knowledge of a subject being discussed, not just info), I wonder how far things like that go for all of us. Would explain so much. I have no doubt I have a similar disconnect with people who are wealthy and have never had to struggle financially or with mental illness. I'm lucky enough now that at least I can afford to eat healthy and take medication. This is not true for so many.
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These are anecdotes when compared to the population. It isn’t helpful to make excuses for the rest.
 
thethe said:
These are anecdotes when compared to the population. It isn’t helpful to make excuses for the rest.
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It isn't. I live in WV. The majority of people I know are in similar situations. WV obesity numbers? #1 in the nation last time I looked. Most of the people who don't have to deal with these issues aren't obese. I wonder why that is? Maybe there is something to these "excuses" that don't fit your prejudices.
 
Dalyn said:
It isn't. I live in WV. The majority of people I know are in similar situations. WV obesity numbers? #1 in the nation last time I looked. Most of the people who don't have to deal with these issues aren't obese. I wonder why that is? Maybe there is something to these "excuses" that don't fit your prejudices.
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The majority of the people you know is the definition of an anecdote
 
Dalyn said:
This is the kind of thing that really shows how out of touch with poverty some people are. I am certainly not talking about fast food when I am talking about unhealthy and cheaper, and there is a reason this is not a legitimate option for poor people if you take a minute to think it through. I did a webinar for work recently where the guy was talking about the disconnect between even the middle class and poverty, and about time horizon. Some people don't have the luxury to think ahead. You should take a look at time horizons in this regard. Really interesting.
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I didn’t realize you were in poverty my dude.

This was just directed at you specifically
 
Dalyn said:
The evidence supports my reasons FAR more than laziness and selfishness. You're just a bitter prick.
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Or someone that has said this for months and now studies are showing it’s the case.

Fat people, aside from the majority of people that Dalyn knows, are lazy and selfish.

Make you happy you victim mentality whore?
 
Tapate50 said:
I didn’t realize you were in poverty my dude.

This was just directed at you specifically
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I'm not anymore. But I left home at 13, so it was pretty much impossible to avoid for the longest time. I'm still nowhere near the middle class, but I'm not in poverty.
 
Dalyn said:
This kind of thing just comes from a place that has no true understanding of mental illness. When I get a glimpse of how badly disconnected some of us are from others (usually when I have intimate knowledge of a subject being discussed, not just info), I wonder how far things like that go for all of us. Would explain so much. I have no doubt I have a similar disconnect with people who are wealthy and have never had to struggle financially or with mental illness. I'm lucky enough now that at least I can afford to eat healthy and take medication. This is not true for so many.
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Wooo.. got it all figured out.

A person is my own household suffers from crippling depression an anxiety. I have dealt with very very serious aspects of this firsthand and for years.

This isn’t the majority of the population and to act like it is... well... is ignorant

Once again- people portray the very very few cases of legit issues onto the roughly 40% of the population that has obesity issues.

It isn’t the majority.
 
Dalyn said:
I'm not anymore. But I left home at 13, so it was pretty much impossible to avoid for the longest time. I'm still nowhere near the middle class, but I'm not in poverty.
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Good for you. No one is stopping you from getting wherever you want to be. Keep it up and make it better
 
Tapate50 said:
Wooo.. got it all figured out.

A person is my own household suffers from crippling depression an anxiety. I have dealt with very very serious aspects of this firsthand and for years.

This isn’t the majority of the population and to act like it is... well... is ignorant

Once again- people portray the very very few cases of legit issues onto the roughly 40% of the population that has obesity issues.

It isn’t the majority.
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All anecdotes to pretend like they are morally superior.
 
thethe said:
Or someone that has said this for months and now studies are showing it’s the case.

Fat people, aside from the majority of people that Dalyn knows, are lazy and selfish.

Make you happy you victim mentality whore?
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What studies? And who said a thing about being a victim? Some people are just thoughtful enough to understand that there is more to any issue than black and white. That isn't a victim mentality. That's being able to reason and empathize. I disagreed with you about most things before you disappeared, but I still thought you were a decent human being. Since your return, you've just seemed bitter, angry, and ****ing willfully obtuse. Learn how to broaden your understanding of an issue without having to scapegoat a whole class of people to cover for your ignorance.
 
thethe said:
All anecdotes to pretend like they are morally superior.
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Morally superior? What a ****ing laugh. Cause we are the ones going around calling people lazy and selfish, and just generally acting as though everyone else in the world is beneath you.
 
For people that don’t get what is being said -

There is an extremely low percentage of people that have real reasons they have weight issues.

There are probably a small percentage of those people that could still do better and work toward not having them.

We have the highest obesity rate in the world and it’s not close.

The difference in those % CAN do something about it and usually choose not to.

No one is talking about people with depression but exercise and healthy food can and does help with that as well.

No one is talking about the fraction of a % point of people that have Prader- Willi syndrome.

Y’all act like this is all the norm. It is not
 
Tapate50 said:
Wooo.. got it all figured out.

A person is my own household suffers from crippling depression an anxiety. I have dealt with very very serious aspects of this firsthand and for years.

This isn’t the majority of the population and to act like it is... well... is ignorant

Once again- people portray the very very few cases of legit issues onto the roughly 40% of the population that has obesity issues.

It isn’t the majority.
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I hope you don't tell them all they need is a little personal responsibility. And we aren't talking about the majority of the population, we are talking about the majority of a segment of the population.
 
Tapate50 said:
For people that don’t get what is being said -

There is an extremely low percentage of people that have real reasons they have weight issues.

There are probably a small percentage of those people that could still do better and work toward not having them.

We have the highest obesity rate in the world and it’s not close.

The difference in those % CAN do something about it and usually choose not to.

No one is talking about people with depression but exercise and healthy food can and does help with that as well.

No one is talking about the fraction of a % point of people that have Prader- Willi syndrome.

Y’all act like this is all the norm. It is not
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As mentioned, they are just being anti-racist bc personal accountability is white supremacist

In fact, I'm calling your employer right now!
 
Some of the last studies on this issue pointed out that people in counties with high poverty are most prone to obesity. Counties with a poverty rate of something like 30% or greater have well over 100% greater rates of obesity than wealthy counties. The proof just keeps going and going. Are there some people who are obese because they are lazy and/or selfish? Yes. More than the ones who are obese because of the issues I mentioned? Not even ****ing close.
 
Dalyn said:
What studies? And who said a thing about being a victim? Some people are just thoughtful enough to understand that there is more to any issue than black and white. That isn't a victim mentality. That's being able to reason and empathize. I disagreed with you about most things before you disappeared, but I still thought you were a decent human being. Since your return, you've just seemed bitter, angry, and ****ing willfully obtuse. Learn how to broaden your understanding of an issue without having to scapegoat a whole class of people to cover for your ignorance.
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You’re flat out using anecdotes to pretend that a majority of obese people are there because life is against them. It’s just a flat out pie and nothing supports what you are saying. If it were true then we would have much more closely aligned obesity rates in developed nations
 
Dalyn said:
Morally superior? What a ****ing laugh. Cause we are the ones going around calling people lazy and selfish, and just generally acting as though everyone else in the world is beneath you.
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Yes. Almost anyone can avoid being obese. It’s really simple but requires determination to exercise.
 
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