Interesting.
I hope you would vote for any such politician since they are clearly trying to institute policies to help those disadvantaged. Surely you could see that.
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Interesting.
I hope you would vote for any such politician since they are clearly trying to institute policies to help those disadvantaged. Surely you could see that.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
yeah...ever watch lotto drawings...every generation a few ping pong balls pop out of these really poor counties...someone finds a mentor or uncle who helps them through a tough home situation...doesn't mean those other ping pong balls are a bunch of lazy do nothings
Or most of the time they just do a lot of hard work and sacrifice
But yeah, go with the rich uncle angle.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Take New York. There are very powerful teachers' unions. Their endorsement means a lot to people running for mayor or city council. I think New Yorkers should seek out those candidates that are NOT being endorsed by the public sector unions. To me this has always been a tell in NY city politics. The politicians not closely associated with those unions will generally do a better job of representing the broader public interest.
Tapate50
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You'd probably have to hone that viewpoint down into measurables to make any sort of hypothesis.
Do they desire to move out of their city? Do they pursue higher education? Are they content where they are? What amount of money to they want to make?
And if they are doing anything toward these goals.
But , your theory is an interesting one.
There is a movement/party that is going against unions such as this which don’t have the best interest of their communities at the forefront.
I wonder if people will start to see that.
Never mind, let’s return to our regularly scheduled programming of making up things to impeach a great president and call him a racist.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
there are no rich uncles in those counties
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
he did run on protecting the suburban moms from the boogie man...there is that small matter
Rich is a relative term and doesn’t strictly mean money.
An important issue to ensure that there are safe haven communities for all Americans and not the dumpster fires that are democrat big cities.
Great issues for minority families who want a better life for their children to support.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think there is a lot of interesting discussion that has been sparked by Hillbilly Elegy. Like this historian who has written a book to correct the things she believes are misrepresented in it.
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/31/5822...re-getting-wrong-about-appalachia-in-new-book
I've personally spent very little time in Appalachia. Did a drive through West Virginia once, but I really didn't spend enough time there. So my impressions are based upon what other people who know the area well have written about it. And of course like anyone else my reading is self-selective.
Edit: I have spent more time in upstate NY, parts of which strike me as very much like Appalachia.
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Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
As one of those Appalachians who did escape extreme poverty, it isn't a problem with an easy solution. I have several family members who are still in one income families, living in trailers, with no desire to make major changes. Some of them are more driven, capable, and intelligent than I am. A couple of them have college degrees, and I don't.
So how did I make it to upper-middle class when they're all still either in poverty or lower-middle? There's no magic formula. I was willing to move to where the jobs are. Appalachian manufacturing has been gutted, so now the area is almost completely dependent on the service industry. Combine that with the easy money of selling farmland to subdivision developers to build homes for retiring Yankees and there's no opportunity outside of the construction or medical fields. Expanded work from home may change that. I'm certainly thinking about returning. The problem with that is that a lot of other people are probably thinking the same thing. Combined with the unending flow of transplant retirees, that makes home ownership even less likely for the natives and continues the destruction of a wonderful culture. No one seems to complain about gentrification when it's happening to the rural people. Funny how that works.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Can’t wait to move down south once my company realizes that working in an office is obsolete.
Sorry Jaw
Hahaha! Just say ma'am, speak or smile to people on the street, and (this is the most important thing) do not tell them how you used to do it up North.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
mobility does seem to an important part of the equation...people have a strong sense of place sometimes...it provides them with comfort
mobility mattered in a very different way for blacks...they stayed put in the south for a long time...but eventually there was the great migration to the northern cities...and not long after that a lot of those industries that were providing them jobs went into decline...bad timing
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
As you know from Hillbilly Elegy, the same thing happened to the hillbillies from KY/WV/PA after their migration from the hills to what is now the Rust Belt.