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Tapate50
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Guy obviously was off his rocker. Hate he took it out on that segment of the community (sex workers). I know it’s a large industry down here. Kinda low down to take out your woman troubles on sex workers probably brought here for that reason
Not entirely sure this ones race related as much as some people want it to be
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Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
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It shortens life expectancies, it pollutes air, it constricts equilibrium, it devastates forests, it melts ice caps, it sparks (and funds) wars, it flattens dialects, it infests consciousnesses, and it kills people—white people and people who are not white, my mom included.
There will be people who die, in 2050, because of white supremacy-induced decisions from 1850.
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White supremacy is a virus that, like other viruses, will not die until there are no bodies left for it to infect. Which means the only way to stop it is to locate it, isolate it, extract it, and kill it. I guess a vaccine could work, too. But we’ve had 400 years to develop one, so I won’t hold my breath.
It shortens life expectancies, it pollutes air, it constricts equilibrium, it devastates forests, it melts ice caps, it sparks (and funds) wars, it flattens dialects, it infests consciousnesses, and it kills people—white people and people who are not white, my mom included.
There will be people who die, in 2050, because of white supremacy-induced decisions from 1850.
...
White supremacy is a virus that, like other viruses, will not die until there are no bodies left for it to infect. Which means the only way to stop it is to locate it, isolate it, extract it, and kill it. I guess a vaccine could work, too. But we’ve had 400 years to develop one, so I won’t hold my breath.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/amp/...-is-out-3265760.php?__twitter_impression=true
Editor's note: This 2010 column originally appeared in print in the San Francisco Chronicle. As of 2019, the Chronicle and SFGATE have been separate editorial operations.
San Francisco's hidden truth is out. That's what community organizer Carol Mo calls the realization that Asian residents are being targeted for robberies, burglaries and intimidation by young black men.
"It is San Francisco's dirty little secret," said Mo, a former Safety Network Community organizer in the Sunset District. "It's not news to us."
Hundreds of people marched into Tuesday's Board of Supervisors meeting to express their fear, frustration and outrage. But so far the response has been disappointing, particularly from the San Francisco Police Department. It seems intent on downplaying the role of race and its impact in the community.
The recent incidents of black violence against Asians is the perfect opportunity to open a dialogue about racism. Instead, they are attempting to close the door.
City officials, including the Police Department, say these assaults are part of a larger crime picture where gangs of kids take advantage of a vulnerable group of small stature. But Mo participated in a 2008 survey by the Police Department in which about 300 strong-arm robberies were analyzed. "In 85 percent of the physical assault crimes, the victims were Asian and the perpetrators were African American," she said.
The squeamishness city officials are experiencing about confronting those numbers doesn't reflect well on anyone. No one is saying the entire African American community is violent. But ignoring the legitimate anger and frustration from Asians is disingenuous and unfair.
"We love San Francisco," said the Rev. Norman Fong, a Presbyterian minister. "And we don't want to do anything to divide the communities. But at the same time, our community is hurting and we feel like our voices are not being heard."
Now that the Asian community has found its voice, city leaders must listen and respond. What should be done? Here are a few suggestions:
-- Understand the underlying conflict: This isn't just about stealing iPods. There's a deep divide between the two communities. Edward Chang, who lectures on civil unrest and race relations at UC Riverside, has studied the contentious history of Korean-African American relations in Los Angeles when Korean store owners moved into black neighborhoods.
"There was this sense of being invaded by someone else," Chang said. "There was a sense of needing to protect and defend their turf."
Another factor is the way the two cultures are perceived. Lee Mun Wah, a Berkeley-based documentary filmmaker and diversity trainer for large corporations, said there is resentment over how Asians are seen as "the favored minority."
"We are pitted against each other," Wah said. "African Americans sometimes say, 'We did all the work in civil rights, and they get all the benefits.' "
Editor's note: This 2010 column originally appeared in print in the San Francisco Chronicle. As of 2019, the Chronicle and SFGATE have been separate editorial operations.
San Francisco's hidden truth is out. That's what community organizer Carol Mo calls the realization that Asian residents are being targeted for robberies, burglaries and intimidation by young black men.
"It is San Francisco's dirty little secret," said Mo, a former Safety Network Community organizer in the Sunset District. "It's not news to us."
Hundreds of people marched into Tuesday's Board of Supervisors meeting to express their fear, frustration and outrage. But so far the response has been disappointing, particularly from the San Francisco Police Department. It seems intent on downplaying the role of race and its impact in the community.
The recent incidents of black violence against Asians is the perfect opportunity to open a dialogue about racism. Instead, they are attempting to close the door.
City officials, including the Police Department, say these assaults are part of a larger crime picture where gangs of kids take advantage of a vulnerable group of small stature. But Mo participated in a 2008 survey by the Police Department in which about 300 strong-arm robberies were analyzed. "In 85 percent of the physical assault crimes, the victims were Asian and the perpetrators were African American," she said.
The squeamishness city officials are experiencing about confronting those numbers doesn't reflect well on anyone. No one is saying the entire African American community is violent. But ignoring the legitimate anger and frustration from Asians is disingenuous and unfair.
"We love San Francisco," said the Rev. Norman Fong, a Presbyterian minister. "And we don't want to do anything to divide the communities. But at the same time, our community is hurting and we feel like our voices are not being heard."
Now that the Asian community has found its voice, city leaders must listen and respond. What should be done? Here are a few suggestions:
-- Understand the underlying conflict: This isn't just about stealing iPods. There's a deep divide between the two communities. Edward Chang, who lectures on civil unrest and race relations at UC Riverside, has studied the contentious history of Korean-African American relations in Los Angeles when Korean store owners moved into black neighborhoods.
"There was this sense of being invaded by someone else," Chang said. "There was a sense of needing to protect and defend their turf."
Another factor is the way the two cultures are perceived. Lee Mun Wah, a Berkeley-based documentary filmmaker and diversity trainer for large corporations, said there is resentment over how Asians are seen as "the favored minority."
"We are pitted against each other," Wah said. "African Americans sometimes say, 'We did all the work in civil rights, and they get all the benefits.' "
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I don't think there is anyone (or very few people) opposed to holding black CRIMINALS accountable for their crimes. I don't think we should hold black PEOPLE accountable for the crimes of black CRIMINALS. The two are ya know different.
goldfly
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Literally targeted only one type of woman and “we aren’t sure if race might have played a factor” lol
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
You must hate all of the criticism of "whiteness" and the broad usage of "white supremacy."
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
We've had this conversation.
Black man kills someone. Not ok to make race a part of the story. It would be like saying Weinstein or Epstein is a Jewish sex predator.
Black man kills someone based upon a black nationalist ideology. For sure that black nationalist ideology is part of the story.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
So if an average cop who is not known to be part of a white supremacist group kills a black man, it's not okay to make race a part of the story, right?
I don’t care about criminals. They are a small subset of the population. I just ignore people like zito and Cajun who don’t hold them accountable. They are just jokes.
Each individual should be held accountable for any of their actions. For some reason you and many others make excuses for every day choices which are non criminal but keep the cycle of poverty going.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It's the kind of story that needs to be covered with care. In some cases (Ferguson, Missouri and the Freddy Gray case in Baltimore) I thought race was not part of the story. Except in a broad sense about poverty and ghettos.
In other cases, a particular incident is consistent with a problem of policing in a particular city.
But I'm a data guy. I think there IS a problem of differential treatment in policing. I have mixed feelings about taking a particular case and giving it too much emphasis. The reason I have mixed feelings about it is most people are not "data guys and gals." So if for them the George Floyd case raises awareness of how police treat minorities, I see some benefit in that. But there is always a but. I think it is unfair and wrong to go from having an awareness of problems with policing to assuming anything about an individual policeman or woman. We should look at how they are trained and so forth. But we shouldn't make an assumption that just because someone chose that as their profession there is something wrong with them.
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