117th Congress

am i the only one tired of this nonsense ?

the board has been consumed debunking already debunked allegations
seems what we have devolved too

Swalwell being seduced by a ChiCom agent is absolute fact. I agree with you that the Obama administration was wrong to sweep it under the rug. Sadly, their Justice department was far more concerned about politics than justice.

Maybe we can get MTG or Matt Gaetz to bang a foreign agent. That will show us what would've happened if Swalwell didn't have the all important (D) beside his name.
 
Guys don’t worry.

The fbi spoke to swalwell and now everything is good.

No risks to our nation at all that a sitting member of our intelligence committee either so moronic he got duped into having a sexual relationship with a ccp spy or more sinister is he knew.

Either one isn’t good. As Jaw said if this was a R or any populist they would be tarred and feathered immediately and Probabaly even thrown in jail.

Nsacpi would be talking about how they chose party over country or some bull**** and have pages and pages of pointless articles. We all know it. But right now it’s just a booboo that the fbi cleared up.
 
Guys don’t worry.

The fbi spoke to swalwell and now everything is good.


No risks to our nation at all that a sitting member of our intelligence committee either so moronic he got duped into having a sexual relationship with a ccp spy or more sinister is he knew.

Either one isn’t good. As Jaw said if this was a R or any populist they would be tarred and feathered immediately and Probabaly even thrown in jail.

Nsacpi would be talking about how they chose party over country or some bull**** and have pages and pages of pointless articles. We all know it. But right now it’s just a booboo that the fbi cleared up.

Out of curiosity, is there any actual evidence that refutes the story that Swalwell was unaware of what was going on, and that he not only didn’t share information, but cooperated fully?
 
Out of curiosity, is there any actual evidence that refutes the story that Swalwell was unaware of what was going on, and that he not only didn’t share information, but cooperated fully?

When your people and make no mistake the people ping the investigation are nothing more than D activists, you can kind of say anything and get away with it.

I mean, HRC literally destroyed evidence that was subject to a subpoena and nothing happened to her.
 
When your people and make no mistake the people ping the investigation are nothing more than D activists, you can kind of say anything and get away with it.

I mean, HRC literally destroyed evidence that was subject to a subpoena and nothing happened to her.

That’s not what I asked, though. Who has conflicting evidence that says that the Chinese operative was successful in extraction information from him?
 
That’s not what I asked, though. Who has conflicting evidence that says that the Chinese operative was successful in extraction information from him?

No such information exists. That’s never stopped anyone from speculating especially since we’ve seen how there are two system of justice based on the political party you are in.
 
Can the lecturer lecture us on whether this is anti democratic fascism

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She needs to brush up on her law. Powell v. McCormack. Congress can't just refuse to seat members and the speaker especially can't. There would need to be a specific ineligibility (e.g. age). Earl Warren wrote the opinion of a 7-1 court. The dissent was only because there was an argument that the case was moot as the Representative had already been seated.

Edit: Actually, the more I look into it the more interesting the argument is as the issue is a contested election and not just a refusal to seat a member for some other reason. I'll look into this more.
 
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She needs to brush up on her law. Powell v. McCormack. Congress can't just refuse to seat members and the speaker especially can't. There would need to be a specific ineligibility (e.g. age). Earl Warren wrote the opinion of a 7-1 court. The dissent was only because there was an argument that the case was moot as the Representative had already been seated.

Edit: Actually, the more I look into it the more interesting the argument is as the issue is a contested election and not just a refusal to seat a member for some other reason. I'll look into this more.

From the clip it sounded like Pelosi was saying she had the absolute right to not seat any member of the House she wanted at her option. That's patently wrong. It's actually an issue of a contested election and each chamber is granted by the Constitution the role of the judge of elections, returns, and qualifications for members of their chamber. Congress has passed the Federal Contested Elections Act setting up the process for this.

So with the proper context applied, Pelosi was right in saying she had the power to not seat the Representative until the process was completed. It was actually a pretty easy decision for Pelosi. One seat wasn't going to do much and the optics would have been terrible. If it was a crucial seat that would somehow change the balance of power, I fully expect we'd have seen a different result.

Honestly, I think this is a problematic area of the Constitution. Courts have refused to get involved with Congress' power to judge who won an election calling it a political question (court speech for "it's too messy for us to get involved"). But we're already seeing the potential for this power to be abused.

You had a New Jersey congressman earlier this year ask Pelosi to refuse to seat any GOP congressman who refused to vote to certify the election under the 14th amendment that disqualifies anyone who engages in insurrection or rebellion against the US Government disqualified from serving a federal office. You had a US Congressman in all seriousness allege that a member of Congress could be disqualified from office based on a vote they cast and words they spoke in the chamber. That's pretty wild if you think about it.

I don't like the idea of the power to determine whether to seat a member of congress or judge who won an election sitting solely in the hands of people with motivation to abuse it. I would hope if it came down to abuse the SCOTUS would overcome their fear of involvement and step in but it's not a certainty.

In any event, I would call that headline very misleading and the clip lacking context.
 
Yeah, if she took the action that she didnt take it would have been bad. How is that in any way something bad?

She is again saying this election was fraudulent and not legitimate. I believe this is the 3rd or 4th time she has referred to the verified elected official as illegitimate on a public platform.
 
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She is again saying this election was fraudulent and not legitimate. I believe this is the 3rd or 4th time she has referred to the verified elected official as illegitimate on a public platform.

Two different sets of rules and they pretend that isn’t the case.

Board has been flipped. We have to understand this and respond accordingly.
 
In any event, I would call that headline very misleading and the clip lacking context.

True dat.

There have been two exceedingly close House races. The one in Iowa. And New York's 22nd district, with 109 votes separating the candidates. A Republikaner © has been seated in both cases. When an election is that close, the handful of questionable ballots cast in every election come into play. If the House majority wants to play hardball they can second-guess the decisions made by local election officials with respect to these contested ballots and get the result they want. They have the power to do that and all it would take would be to exercise a different set of judgments about the contested ballots. I think it is generally unwise to do this. And especially unwise in the current situation, when confidence in elections has been shaken by the BIG LIE, which continues to be propagated by a majority of Republikaners © elected to the House. Remember well over half of GOP House members voted to disenfranchise the voters of Arizona and Pennsylvania. I don't think a single one has expressed regrets about doing so.
 
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The US admitted five states—Wyo. Montana, Idaho, N. Dakota & S.Dakota
—to Union in 1889-90. The explicit aim was to give the GOP ten new senators.
It’s a little rich watching senators from those lightly populated states argue
that opposing DC statehood is a matter of principle.
 
Tell it to the founders...
Give VA and MD their land back

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the founders would have a bigger issue with millions of citizens suffering taxation without representation than how much land we owe those two states.

DC has clearly gone far beyond what the Founders intended. I’d support giving the land back to VA or MD instead of Statehood for DC, but the idea of all those citizens not having the same basic right to representation is simply absurd.
 
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She is again saying this election was fraudulent and not legitimate. I believe this is the 3rd or 4th time she has referred to the verified elected official as illegitimate on a public platform.


Is this about the Florida race where the GOP candidate got someone with a similar name to the Democrat incumbent to run who won by like 25 votes but the shadow candidate got like 6k votes?
 
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