No All Star Game in Atlanta This Season?

clvclv said:
The Atlanta Braves play 81 games in Cobb County - not the other teams. If the Braves won't stand against the bill themselves, good on MLB for standing against it as an entire sport.

As usual, the entire point is missed by those who feel they should be rewarded even though their views don't line up with the majority. This has absolutely nothing to do with being "woke" on any level. MLB sat down and talked with the Players Association, club management, club employees, and plenty of others before concluding that the strong majority of those directly involved in the sport supported taking this position. This isn't about sticking it to either party, the citizens of Atlanta and the surrounding areas, or a way to extend penalties against the Braves' organization for the rules Coppy so blatantly broke.

This proposed legislation that a pretty substantial percentage of our society on top of those directly or indirectly employed by MLB opposes, and it's MLB's way to express that. Good for them.
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What do you oppose about it specifically?
 
clvclv said:
The Atlanta Braves play 81 games in Cobb County - not the other teams. If the Braves won't stand against the bill themselves, good on MLB for standing against it as an entire sport.

As usual, the entire point is missed by those who feel they should be rewarded even though their views don't line up with the majority. This has absolutely nothing to do with being "woke" on any level. MLB sat down and talked with the Players Association, club management, club employees, and plenty of others before concluding that the strong majority of those directly involved in the sport supported taking this position. This isn't about sticking it to either party, the citizens of Atlanta and the surrounding areas, or a way to extend penalties against the Braves' organization for the rules Coppy so blatantly broke.

This proposed legislation that a pretty substantial percentage of our society on top of those directly or indirectly employed by MLB opposes, and it's MLB's way to express that. Good for them.
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Excellent! So you now agree with punishing people for other's crimes as a way to express disapproval of those crimes? So you agree you should be labeled a sex offender because someone in your neighborhood downloaded child porn and then died? It's important that the government express its disapproval of child porn and they can't punish the guy that did it. Consulting with the community would of course result in the community saying there needs to be punishment when someone breaks child porn laws. So who gets punished is irrelevant so long a principled stand is made.

That's the logic here. The Braves didn't pass the law. Cobb County didn't pass the law. The local people who now will miss out on this income didn't pass the law. But that's who MLB is punishing. It's okay though because MLB is making a principled stand.
 
jsebe10 said:
You must have missed the part of the transition where Trump actively and openly dogged Kemp and GA elected GOP officials for saying there was no fraud in GA...But you’re so fckn woke I can feel it through keyboard. How can such a blinded fool like you and many on here like such a manly sport like baseball??
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Does any of that change the fact that even when trying to influence election results, suppress votes and Dumbax lawsuits the GOP screaming fraud has created this mass confusion? That woke shyt you anyone else is talking about is stupid.
 
striker42 said:
I'm interested to know what contracts MLB has with the Braves and/or Cobb County about the All Star game. I can't imagine there's not something. At the very least there has likely been detrimental reliance by both the Braves and Cobb County which could make MLB liable. It wouldn't surprise me if MLB is going to have to write some very, very large checks.
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There is zero chance that they wouldn't be breaking thousands of contracts with vendors/contractors/etc... but i wonder if it is the Braves who made those, Georgia, or MLB.

Regardless... what a shame for all those people
 
georgia republicans probably skate by with this if they don’t include the “no handing water” thing. got just a liiiittle too greedy in their vote suppression.
 
Super said:
georgia republicans probably skate by with this if they don’t include the “no handing water” thing. got just a liiiittle too greedy in their vote suppression.
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Which is honestly completely silly. It's not like people are deciding who to vote for based on someone handing them water and it's also not as if people are basing their decision on whether or not to vote based on whether someone might possibly hand them a bottle of water. That part of the law has very little effect one way or the other.
 
the water thing is very silly...both for the people who put it in the bill and the people who think it matters

but in politics it's a great wedge issue...more so for one side in this instance
 
sturg33 said:
There is zero chance that they wouldn't be breaking thousands of contracts with vendors/contractors/etc... but i wonder if it is the Braves who made those, Georgia, or MLB.

Regardless... what a shame for all those people
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You have asked specifically what people have an issue with. I have 3:

1. For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.
There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
The measure is likely to have the effect of pushing absentee voters to return ballots through the mail, which in 2020 did not prove as reliable as in the past because of cuts to the Postal Service. (A post office destroyed by Trump appointee DeJoy)

2. Last year, Fulton County, which includes most of Atlanta, had two recreational vehicles that traversed the county during the early voting periods, effectively bringing polling sites to people at churches, parks and public libraries. In the November election, more than 11,200 people voted at the two vehicles in Fulton County.
Georgia has now outlawed this practice, unless the governor declares a state of emergency to allow it — something that Mr. Kemp, a Republican, is unlikely to do given that it could increase voter turnout in Atlanta.

3. These new strict rules on early voting hours are likely to curtail voting access for Georgians who work daytime hours or have less flexible schedules and who may be unable to return an absentee ballot. Unless there is a holiday for voting, yes this will affect those people who cannot afford to take a day off to vote. I'm sure some rich people wouldn't think that to be an issue but some employers aren't going to pay you to vote.

I'm not putting race into this at all. But if you don't think any of these are not suppressive tactics good for you. I'm sure demon sex and alien babies are still a thing too.
 
nsacpi said:
the water thing is very silly...both for the people who put it in the bill and the people who think it matters

but in politics it's a great wedge issue...more so for one side in this instance
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If you made a list of electioneering laws that should be controversial, this one isn't even among the top ones. For example, you can't wear any clothing to the polls promoting a specific candidate. So you wouldn't have been able to wear a MAGA hat or a Biden shirt. I find this abhorrent. Someone passively wearing a candidate's shirt as they go to the polls to exercise their right to vote should be fine. I can understand not allowing active campaigning in a polling place but being turned away from voting for wearing a shirt is terrible.

But a free water bottle is where we draw the battle lines?
 
sturg33 said:
Thats the suppression?

No free snacks?
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It's actually no campaigning at the poll site. The specifics of that, including handing out snacks, come from examples of ways people have tried in the past to get around the prohibition against campaigning at the polls.
 
This makes me so mad. I’ve about had it with rural hicks in this state. I mean heck the house tried to retaliate against Delta but it stalled out. The things in this bill are subtle but they could make a big difference in a gridlocked state. As a Georgian though this bothers me. I hate losing something because of the actions of groups of people I can’t stand and am tired of living around.
 
Incredibly hurtful. Makes me wonder if I want to watch another game this year.

The good people of Georgia who only wanted to watch baseball aren't the only people affected. This Oregonian feels the sting, and I feel as though I'm the one getting punished.
 
Coredor said:
This makes me so mad. I’ve about had it with rural hicks in this state. I mean heck the house tried to retaliate against Delta but it stalled out. The things in this bill are subtle but they could make a big difference in a gridlocked state. As a Georgian though this bothers me. I hate losing something because of the actions of groups of people I can’t stand and am tired of living around.
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If I hated the state I live in, I would move. Maybe you should consider it.
 
Deester11 said:
You have asked specifically what people have an issue with. I have 3:

1. For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.
There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
The measure is likely to have the effect of pushing absentee voters to return ballots through the mail, which in 2020 did not prove as reliable as in the past because of cuts to the Postal Service. (A post office destroyed by Trump appointee DeJoy)

2. Last year, Fulton County, which includes most of Atlanta, had two recreational vehicles that traversed the county during the early voting periods, effectively bringing polling sites to people at churches, parks and public libraries. In the November election, more than 11,200 people voted at the two vehicles in Fulton County.
Georgia has now outlawed this practice, unless the governor declares a state of emergency to allow it — something that Mr. Kemp, a Republican, is unlikely to do given that it could increase voter turnout in Atlanta.

3. These new strict rules on early voting hours are likely to curtail voting access for Georgians who work daytime hours or have less flexible schedules and who may be unable to return an absentee ballot. Unless there is a holiday for voting, yes this will affect those people who cannot afford to take a day off to vote. I'm sure some rich people wouldn't think that to be an issue but some employers aren't going to pay you to vote.

I'm not putting race into this at all. But if you don't think any of these are not suppressive tactics good for you. I'm sure demon sex and alien babies are still a thing too.
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Thank you for actually responding in a meaningful and productive way.

A few questions for you.

1. Weren't those measures put in place specifically for covid measures and were never meant to be permenant? and those emergency measures never actually legislated? and aren't the 23 drop boxes significantly more than the numbers that were there prior to covid? I think there should be legit concern about universal mail in balloting due to losing the chain of access, so I think this is a sensible measure to take while still providing greater access than they had before and greater access than other similar cities

2. I have never heard of this practice. Is this something happening throughout the United States?

3. But the voting hours were actually expanded from what they were before, weren't they?


And after all that... what you posted above - even if taken in the the worst possible intent - does not seemingly justify the outrageous non-proportional response that is happening. As far as I can tell, there is a high liklihood that wherever the game gets move to will be in a city with more restrictive voting access than GA
 
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