Republican voter suppression...

jpx7 said:
Such measures are objectively and unduly restrictive. They were pre-pandemic, and they still will be post-pandemic. People just happen to actually be paying attention now.
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Unsupervised ballot boxes facilitates ballot harvesting. Seems the changes being made are strictly focused on that with removing these boxes as well as requiring the person who fills out the ballot to be the one that drops it off.

It also allows any poll watcher despite political affiliation to actually tape record any potential shenanigans at the polling places.

Monsters I guess.
 
I’m just wondering if the proponents of unrestricted voting understand fraud risk or just don’t care.
 
thethe said:
Unsupervised ballot boxes facilitates ballot harvesting. Seems the changes being made are strictly focused on that with removing these boxes as well as requiring the person who fills out the ballot to be the one that drops it off.

It also allows any poll watcher despite political affiliation to actually tape record any potential shenanigans at the polling places.

Monsters I guess.
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“Ballot harvesting” is functionally not a real thing.
 
striker42 said:
Incorrect. It's legal in California and you're already seeing the parties resorting to shenanigans with the ability for things to get much worse.
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Despite its legality it was done in many states.

I just don’t think people understand what happened in 2020. I’d advise listening to some Banon if any of you can stomach him. He has had far and away the best coverage that detailed what happened in each battleground state as well as some other non toss ups.

All of these election reforms at the state level are in response to what everyone knows was an unreliable result for 2020. Doesn’t mean trump won but when an election is unauditable that’s a massive problem.
 
striker42 said:
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/16/9239...reats-over-gop-unauthorized-ballot-drop-boxes

For those that don't think ballot harvesting happens or doesn't present a problem.

What stops a liberal from setting up a dropbox in an rural town or a conservative in the middle of a minority neighborhood, collecting ballots they know favors the other side, and then having those ballots vanish?
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This phenomenon was noted in many states whereby people who never requested ballots had them requested in their name as well as people who requested and mailed ballots were never documented as voting.

People have their head in the sand.
 
striker42 said:
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/16/9239...reats-over-gop-unauthorized-ballot-drop-boxes

For those that don't think ballot harvesting happens or doesn't present a problem.

What stops a liberal from setting up a dropbox in an rural town or a conservative in the middle of a minority neighborhood, collecting ballots they know favors the other side, and then having those ballots vanish?
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With respect to the activities described in the article, I think private individuals and organizations (including political parties) should be banned from setting up their own dropboxes. But at the same time election officials should use dropboxes. And states should not do what Texas did in the last election, which was to greatly restrict the number dropboxes that large urban counties like Harris County could have.
 
sturg33 said:
Silver slowly coming over to the rational side.

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The left has lost it because they are nervous what the numbers are going to look like for an election that you can’t ballot harvest.
 
nsacpi said:
With respect to the activities described in the article, I think private individuals and organizations (including political parties) should be banned from setting up their own dropboxes. But at the same time election officials should use dropboxes. And states should not do what Texas did in the last election, which was to greatly restrict the number dropboxes that large urban counties like Harris County could have.
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Why anyone thinks drop boxes are a good idea is insane to me.
 
Drop boxes are begging for tampering. Period.

Why do I have to vote in person, show an ID and where I live, but someone else can just drop theirs off in a random box.

Oh and wait for HOURS AND HOURS in line with no water.
 
Tapate50 said:
Drop boxes are begging for tampering. Period.

Why do I have to vote in person, show an ID and where I live, but someone else can just drop theirs off in a random box.

Oh and wait for HOURS AND HOURS in line with no water.
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Introducing fraud risk into an election makes zero sense. I just don’t get it.
 
nsacpi said:
Senate Bill 7 bans overnight early voting and drive-through early voting.
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And this is bad why?

How many early days of voting do you think is not suppressive?

And for a cheeky part of this post I don’t see how drive through voting being removed is suppressive since minorities can’t afford cars obviously.
 
thethe said:
And this is bad why?

How many early days of voting do you think is not suppressive?

And for a cheeky part of this post I don’t see how drive through voting being removed is suppressive since minorities can’t afford cars obviously.
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I would say making early voting easier not more difficult should be a priority. Early in person voting has less risk of abuse and fraud than mail voting. For me this is what we should be encouraging.

I appreciate your attempt at humor.

There are other provisions of the Texas bills that are problematic. Here is an article that discusses them in more detail. It seems to me they are much worse than what Georgia passed. My hope is that the grief Georgia is catching will deter Texas (and other states).

https://www.khou.com/article/news/p...ills/269-848e65d3-2575-44a0-93e5-b40860c9bba1
 
nsacpi said:
I would say making early voting easier not more difficult should be a priority. Early in person voting has less risk of abuse and fraud than mail voting. For me this is what we should be encouraging.

I appreciate your attempt at humor.

There are other provisions of the Texas bills that are problematic. Here is an article that discusses them in more detail. It seems to me they are much worse than what Georgia passed. My hope is that the grief Georgia is catching will deter Texas (and other states).

https://www.khou.com/article/news/p...ills/269-848e65d3-2575-44a0-93e5-b40860c9bba1
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Have the number of days of early voting been reduced?

Why would anyone think that overnight anything with voting makes sense. Is this just a form of a Dropbox?

In the article you linked which piece that were deemed as bad provisions do you disagree with and why?
 
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