Braves acquire Orlando Arcia, per Rosenthal

Who was the old school manager who said something to the effect of "...give a whole team of shortstops and I will win a lot of game...?"

Of course the point is that a guy who can play SS can do a lot of things well. (Just remembered that quote;-))
 
NYCBrave said:
Two interesting things to note here. Arcia does have minor league options left. He's also set to make $2 million this year. So how are we affording this?
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Not sure about the final roster dates, but wonder if this could finally be the end of the road for Camargo. If they can still release Johan and save close to a million bucks that covers a significant chunk of Arcia's salary.
 
MadduxFanII said:
Maybe they conceive of Arcia as the actual back-up shortstop and Adrianza as a super-utility guy who can handle shortstop in an emergency? You can have them both on the roster if you're willing to go with *gasp* 13 pitchers, but that still leaves you with the question of why you'd particularly want Adrianza on the roster anyway if he's not going to spend meaningful time at shortstop.
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That's it in a nutshell. Arcia is basically Camargo who can play SS and Adrianza is Camargo who can play SS. Arcia is younger and did show some power one season (of course, so did Camargo). I'm not going to overthink it, but it just seems like a meh-for-double meh kind of deal.
 
mfree80 said:
Who was the old school manager who said something to the effect of "...give a whole team of shortstops and I will win a lot of game...?"

Of course the point is that a guy who can play SS can do a lot of things well. (Just remembered that quote;-))
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There's a reason old school managers are now extinct. A team full of SS that all hit like SSs is going to be terrible.
 
Enscheff said:
There's a reason old school managers are now extinct. A team full of SS that all hit like SSs is going to be terrible.
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How about this one?

Give me a team of All-World players that strikes out 35% of the time, and I'll show you a team that sucks.

How about running the numbers on exactly how well the ENTIRE staff has to pitch if this keeps up?

The high K-Rate didn't matter in 60 games in 2020, but there's no way this team is worth a *hit if the offense takes the reasonably-expected step back AND continues to keep the fans cool with the breeze.
 
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clvclv said:
Not sure about the final roster dates, but wonder if this could finally be the end of the road for Camargo. If they can still release Johan and save close to a million bucks that covers a significant chunk of Arcia's salary.
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Circling back around to this FWIW...

A player's arbitration salary becomes guaranteed if he's on the 25/26-Man Roster when the season begins. (https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/non-guaranteed-contract)

No savings for releasing Camargo/Jackson/Dayton at this point - THAT'S why they shouldn't have been offered arbitration this past winter. Letting Camargo go at this point to keep both Arcia and Adrianza makes those guys significantly more expensive.
 
clvclv said:
Circling back around to this FWIW...

A player's arbitration salary becomes guaranteed if he's on the 25/26-Man Roster when the season begins. (https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/non-guaranteed-contract)

No savings for releasing Camargo/Jackson/Dayton at this point - THAT'S why they shouldn't have been offered arbitration this past winter. Letting Camargo go at this point to keep both Arcia and Adrianza makes those guys significantly more expensive.
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AA loves depth. He kept paying Duvall arb even when he had him stashed in AAA for almost an entire season.
 
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